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Posted by Rod @ 10:10 PM Sun, Sep 02, 2007

Now i am left wondering if I watched all the same preseason games as many of the folks on this blog... Matt Moore??? Who gives a flip if this guy signs with another club. Good lord, even if he is something special (A BIG IF), he won't contribute for several more years.

I ranked my concerns below:

1. TO and TG healthy week 1
2. Newman....lets all say a prayer cause we are screwed without him.
3. Ellis able to contribute until Spencer is ready to start.
4. Is Jeremy Bloom still on the street? Goose probably doesnt even care any more now that he is no longer an Eagle.

999999999. Why did we cut a spare QB that no one had on their draft board though played SO well in a preseason game or two against scrubs.

Posted by kameleon_o @ 10:13 PM Sun, Sep 02, 2007

I'm sure larry has one too. Of course, he's the only one with a pink Matt Moore jersey.

Posted by Maverick @ 10:17 PM Sun, Sep 02, 2007

Frumpy, you know I love you...........But come on, Clint Stoerner? Matt Moore had better games than Brad Johnson all preseason. Go look at the freaking tape. In fact, he was better than the last two former baseball players turned QBs by a long shot. What do you have against Moore?? Don't you think that if several people (more than two) saw the same thing as I have, that maybe...just maybe, you're WRONG?!??!?!?!

Posted by Goober @ 10:22 PM Sun, Sep 02, 2007

Hmmm, Mat Moore, Matt Moore. Isn't that the guy who quit UCLA because he couldn't hold off future superstar Drew Olson?

Posted by kurt @ 10:25 PM Sun, Sep 02, 2007

No to Todd and anyone else that thinks that the Cowboys DIDN'T make a mistake in not protecting M. Moore. Look, its pretty simple ... you do well in a game and you make the team. Matt didn't just have one good game ... he had two. I'm still waiting for our other protected draftees to string together TWO good games. The Cowboys management made a mistake and Todd called one wrong ... no big deal but they did ... its that simple. That doesn't mean that the other people they keep won't be good, it just means they made a mistake because they lost a more promising player then the ones they kept ... happens to everyone.

Todd ... accept you made a mistake because Caroline already proved you wrong. Matt doesn't need to become an all pro to prove you were wrong. Drop the ego and accept.

Posted by Mike @ 10:28 PM Sun, Sep 02, 2007

So, Maverick, because Moore "didn't suck" is a reason to make him the backup? Where are your standards?

Chad Hutchinson had a couple good REGULAR SEASON games and that didn't mean jack. But Moore "not sucking" in preseason meets your mark? Brad Johnson didn't suck either. In fact, he was pretty efficient and we know that's the truth because that's all he's been for the last 8 years.... efficient.

Posted by Goober @ 10:48 PM Sun, Sep 02, 2007

More played better than Johnson? Marginally, at best, but it's mitigated by the level of defensive talent they faced and offensive talent that they worked with. Completion percentage goes to Johnson (76.0% to Moore's 72.4%), yards per attempt goes to Johnson (6.8 to Moore's 6.3). Moore's longest completion including RAC was 26 yards (33 for Johnson), both threw 1 TD, but Johnson's TD% is higher because he attempted fewer passes, and Moore had 0 INTs v. 1 for Johnson. Then again, that lone INT was a 4th and 6 attempt at the end of a game.

Also, best I can tell, only 8 of Moore's 21 completions were to WRs. 11 of Johnson's 19 completions were to WRs. Make of that what you will.

Posted by Mike @ 11:27 PM Sun, Sep 02, 2007

Come on Kurt! Just because CAROLINA picked him up that doesn't mean he is worth a FLIP! Carolina had the opportunity to DRAFT HIM in April and didn't!! In fact...30 other teams besides DALLAS and CAROLINA had the same shot. And...there he sat until 255 guys went ahead of him. He had DECENT games against guys who will be loading UPS trucks and sacking your groceries or playing for the Desperados. Let's not start acting like this guy is the "be all, end all" to the QB position. He's the 2007 version of Drew Henson, Hugh Millen, Clint Stoerner, or any other of the litany of 3rd string SPARES we see every August. Todd can "drop the ego and accept" when this guy unseats Delhomme AND David Carr and starts a game that doesn't have the words PRE_SEASON in front of it.

Posted by Goober @ 11:45 PM Sun, Sep 02, 2007

Hey Kurt, what were Moore's two good games? Surely you're not counting the Vikings game, in which he fumbled twice and passed for 4.9 yards per attempt?

Posted by Larry @ 12:12 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Larry Giusti, don't let them intimidate you.

We both know the cowboys made a major mistake by not protecting Matt Moore, pure and simple.

The biggest reason Matt was not drafted was his size(not height, but weight) and arm strength.
Most clubs did not question his ability, just his durability.

I submit that the boys conditioning coach, one of the best in the business, could have made a new physical speciman out of Moore in a year, increasing not only his durability to hold up to NFL punishment but also increasing his arm strength in the process.

We will find out in about 2 or 3 years but I have a feeling you will never get that "I told you so" email from Todd Archer. All you non-Moore believers enjoy having Nate Jones and Evan Oglesby on your roster, cause thats who you got instead of Matt Moore and Aaron Glenn.

Posted by Calhoun @ 12:31 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Was Larry leaving, and coming back under an assumed name? Well, I wish he would have kept his word!

Posted by Truefan @ 12:49 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Even if Moore becomes a player, it will all depend on what we have. I personally expect Moore to have an "okay" career. Probably be a #2 at best. There are and will be a Matt Moore every year. Those who are saying he should be our #2 now have proven their complete lack of football knowledge. There is no way he can come into a game, without practice snaps, and perform as well as Johnson will be able to. Get a grip.

Posted by Mike @ 1:51 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Is every team supposed to keep every young QB that does well against scrubs? Do any of you experiencing "Matt Moore Mania" even remember Quincy Carter in the preseason? Against 1st team defenses in preseason he looked like Fran Tarkinton. But then the regular season started and it was more like Fran Drescher.

Posted by Saint Jimmy @ 2:49 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Great post Goober. If the Panthers totally want to waste a roster spot on Matt Moore they can go ahead and have him. Name me another undrafted QB that actually did something in the NFL not named Tony Romo. Every year there's always going to be a "Matt Moore" who may or may not be worthy of making the team.

Posted by Mike @ 5:25 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

You can't use up a roster spot on a guy that some dudes on the internet think will be a Pro Bowler one day.

See, there's a little thing called a "window" to win. We're in ours. We have the QB we're going with. At some point you have to go for it and using up roster spots on long shots is no the way to "go for it".

Let it go. Matt Moore is gone and he isn't better than Romo in any way that I see and back-up QB is not the place for a guy with no experience. These 2nd string guys do play in this league.

Posted by Gary M. @ 5:32 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

The reason these guys like Matt Moore is because they saw Ron Jarworski on ESPN rant and rave over him being the "sleeper Q.B." in the draft.

Because we all respect "Jaws" opinion, many of us are disappointed. Many think we can use Jaws insight to make them look good later down the road.

It is an old ploy to pick a long shot and if you miss, no one remembers, but if you hit, you look like a genius. I am on to you guys....but Jaws might be right.... :)

Posted by Mark @ 6:21 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Calm down, Moore could end up back on the Cowboys roster by the end of the year.

If not, No Big Deal!

Another Matt Moore will comes down the pipe next year!

Posted by dbk @ 6:37 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

All we know of Matt Moore is what we saw on TV as most of us didn't have access to practice; particularly Valley Ranch. By the way, who is Larry Giusti? Who cares?

Posted by Maverick @ 6:53 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Hey Mikey...you are dam right I'll make him the backup. And how I know this..gut instinct. In my business if you aren't successful via your instincts, then you're dead....simple as that. Hutchinson/Henson didn't have the skills, nor the confidence to carry it out. Moore has got some moxie to him. He also BEAT USC. Therefore, my standards are quite high. I'm here keeping these virtual journalist in line.

As for Brad Johnson, he doesn't have it anymore. He's a "bus driver, jocking carrying" at best. Don't give me this he won a SB. My Mother could have won it with the Ravens with the defense carrying the team.

Posted by gerald @ 7:41 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Will Matt Moore make it in the league? Who knows. All I know, however, is that a quarterback who will start on opening night was an undrafted guy who ONLY looked pretty good in preseason games. I think his name is Tony Romo.

Posted by Steve @ 7:58 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

This is starting to become a joke....an irritating joke. If your main concern about the Cowboys at THIS point in time is a 3rd string QB, you are a BLEEPIN' IDIOT or a 14yr old who doesn't know any better. He played against 3rd stringers! This is ridiculous. We should be discussing some of the seemingly irrational moves being made (roster wise). I'm glad BP is gone....but "most" of his moves made sense.

Posted by Robb in Atlanta @ 9:15 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Former Seattle Seahawk great Dave Krieg was the only quarterback to take every snap with a K-ball, as evidence of his 153 career fumbles, 18 of which were in one season.

Since Matt Moore has played about the equivalent of one game he is on pace for a 24 fumble season, a new NFL record mind you. At this current rate it would only take Matt 6 1/2 seasons to surpass the Teflon Tosser who accomplished his feat over the span of 18 seasons.

All this with the benefit of not using the K-ball in Carolina where he will subplant incubent starter Jake Delhome and promising fumble fame QB David Carr.

Posted by Kurt @ 9:23 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Poor Goober and Mike. They just don't understand. You can argue till the cows come home about stats. You two, and Todd, can claim to review tapes and be experts ... but your not and neither am I. My point is simple. Carolina, like it or not, is run by professional football people and they made the decision that Matt did show enough to warrant a spot on a 53 man rooster. Thats all I'm saying. Carolina, an orginization that has won 100% more playoff games then Dallas the last 10 years has already proved you two and Todd wrong by signing Matt on their active rooster. You may think you know more football then the scouts and coaches in Carolina ... but you don't. Whether he blows out a knee, turns into Drew Hensen, or Tony Romo, is not the point. Accept the mistake and move on. The people who wanted to keep Moore are not the ones who are hysterical ... Todd continues to grace the headlines today mocking the mistake???

The argument of how good of a player Matt will become has just begun but the argument of whether he should have been signed is over. I suspect Matt will make a more significant impact on the NFL then a number of players we kept ... like Rob Petitti ... uhhh I mean Jim Marten. But that is not my point, nor is it an argument that can be answered anytime soon.

Posted by john @ 9:25 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Tod ,you got what you wanted from the start,Richard Bartel good old texan boy.GOOD LUCK. cruing baby.

Posted by paul karam @ 9:56 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Oh yeah, that guy who only looked good in preseason games and is now starting for the Cowboys,i.e. Tony Romo, don't forget how many years he spent on the bench waiting for his shot. Also, the only reason he wasn't released or traded was other teams' interest in him. I didn't see all those other teams ahead of Carolina showing much interest. He is a PROJECT like Romo was and it will take several YEARS to realize that potential.

Posted by larry giusti @ 10:06 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Hi, Todd. I never said he should be the #2 QB, RIGHT NOW. I never said he should start the Giants game, or is better than Romo, RIGHT NOW. All I said was Matt Moore showed me enough that I thought the Cowboys should have made him one of the 53. You said he wasn't worth keeping, so cut him and put him on the practice squad. I told you that would never happen, that some team was going to see what I saw in Matt, and claim him off waivers. I was right, you were wrong. But you know what, Todd? I wish it were you that were right, because at least then, we would still have Matt Moore. No, I don't have a Matt Moore Panthers jersey. I just have Cowboys jerseys, and no, I don't think Matt is a legend, but I don't think Romo, unlike you, is one either. If Matt Moore turns out to be a bust, send me your e-mail. I'll accept it, along with a healthy portion of crow to eat. But if Matt leads the Panthers or any other team to the Super Bowl one day, I won't even bother with "I told you so", I'll just be as bummed out as I was when I saw Jake Delhomme lead the Panthers to a Super Bowl. Anyway, Todd, now we have Romo, Johnson and Bartel. May God help us all.

Posted by ken @ 11:07 AM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

my thought is the boys were hoping for moore to clear waivers and gambled and lost but choices had to be made so they must be prepared to live with them, my opinion moore reminded me of a young tony romo.

Posted by Maverick @ 12:16 PM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Larry, don't worry..FrumpBoy isn't going to admit he is wrong. Remember..he's a "journalist". Do they ever tell the truth? He's no Dale Hansen. But, I love the little guy. Someone has to put up the dart board, fill it with darts to see what the next day brings. Speaking of dart board, does anyone have a nice poster size picture of Frenchy (JJT) lying around???

Posted by Goober @ 12:34 PM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

The Larry's say:

"Curse you Jerry Jones! You'll rue the day that you cut the skinny rag-armed QB and the short 35 year old burnt toast cornerback!"

Posted by Goober @ 12:46 PM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Maverick.... "gut instinct", really? Does your job depend on your gut instinct as it aplies to professional football? So the guy beat USC, so what? USC doesn't play in the NFL, and thank God Boise St. and Washington St. don't either because he got punked by those two unranked teams.

Posted by Goober @ 1:12 PM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Kurt, are you sure that there are professional football people running the show in Carolina? I mean, you're not basing that opinion on the fact that they picked Moore up off the wire, are you? How have they proven me wrong? All I'm saying is that Moore is a scrub. If anybody's going to prove me wrong about that, it's gotta be Moore himself. I reject your argument that because the Panthers signed him, that he was worth it for the Cowboys to keep. Your arguments can be used against you, you know. There's a reason why you (and me) aren't calling personnel shots in the NFL... even for the Cowboys. Last I checked, the Cowboys and their relatively unknown and very inexperienced QB beat the crap out of the Panthers in their own stadium by a score of 35-14.

Paul Karam, you say it's gonna take several years for Moore to realize his potential? Are you willing to keep an active roster spot open for him for years? Romo was never put on the practice squad because he showed enough to hold off all other competition for the spot he occupied on a team that routinely kept 3 QBs on the roster. It doesn't make sense to say that he wasn't traded because of other teams' interest in him. If there's no interest, you can safely assume that there's no trade offer.

Posted by Goober @ 1:19 PM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Larry Giusti said:

"if Matt leads the Panthers or any other team to the Super Bowl one day"

Hedging your bets on the wisdom of the Panthers' front office already, eh? Do you realize the teams that had to pass on Matt Moore so that the Panthers could be in a position to claim him? Tell me that some of these teams aren't having QB troubles.

Oakland
Detroit
Cleveland
Tampa Bay
Arizona
Washington
Minnesota
Houston
Miami
Atlanta
San Francisco
Buffalo
St. Louis

Posted by Billy @ 2:18 PM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Hey Goober....you're a goober! Say something positive. Your entire approach of this Matt Moore "hysteria" has to been to try and prove everybody else wrong about how they feel about this kid. I've been following Matt since high school and he is a "winner" wherever he goes. Oh, and did you call Drew Olsen a "future superstar"? WOW! Now I KNOW you don't know very much about talent. Drew Olsen will never start an NFL game, you won't be able to say the same about Matt Moore. So go enjoy your season and I wish the Cowboys luck, which will run out if Romo goes down.

Posted by kameleon_o @ 3:53 PM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Billy, let us introduce you to something called "sarcasm". It's what Goober was using when describing Drew Olson. It's okay for you nuts to raze down Jerry Jones, the Cowboys, and proclaim the season is over because Romo's the starter, but don't let anyone else interject some common sense into the debate. I don't have anything against Moore and thought he'd be kept on the 53 man roster, but I'm not going to get in a twist because one more undrafted free agent QB who looked decent in pre-season against scrubs got released. If that's what you guys are worried most about then you're off your rocker.

BTW, the Patriots, Colts, Chargers, and Bungle's luck will all run out if their starting QB goes down. We're no different than anyone else. I swear some of you guys won't be happy until we've got Brady as our starting QB and Manning on the bench ready to back him up.

Posted by Kurt @ 4:48 PM Mon, Sep 03, 2007

Goober, Goober, Goober. I'm not sure why the Cowboys cut Moore but there are many posibilities. Maybe they felt he would last through waivers, maybe they thought he was no better then Bartel, either way I'm not being critical of their decision. I really doubt that many people in the Cowboy orginization thinks he won't make it in the league though. It's possible, but I doubt it. So, my argument that you need to defer to the experts in something like this cannot necessarily be used against me.

Regardless, what I am saying is Todd made a mistake thinking Matt was going to be available after waivers because no one would use up a roster spot on him. The Panthers simply proved him wrong and probably for more reason then to make Todd look silly. And people who say "he is a scrub" are just talking out their ...

Posted by Goober @ 12:59 AM Tue, Sep 04, 2007

Dear Billy:

"I've been following Matt since high school and he is a "winner" wherever he goes."

Obviously you missed his stint at UCLA and the 2007 NFL draft.

"Oh, and did you call Drew Olsen a "future superstar"? WOW! Now I KNOW you don't know very much about talent."

I was being facetious, dorko. My point is that Moore couldn't keep another nobody from taking his starting job away from him. One might also notice that when the boy found out that he wasn't going to start, he QUIT. He took his widdle ball and went home. HE's a QUITTER. Got it?

Lastly, I'd like to point out to you that no matter who goes down this season, Matt Moore will not be the savior. In fact, he's about 2 or 3 years away from being a solid 2nd stringer, if he ever becomes one. Now, if you see your boy, you tell him Goober said he needs to stay with those primary routes as long as he can, we don't like that rinky-dinky California checkoff crap in Texas, we like real football with real passing.

Posted by Mike @ 12:59 AM Tue, Sep 04, 2007

kurt, how many times are you gonna say "it's that simple"? Did you forget you already said it 12 times prior? You really think highly of your opinion don't you?

I don't know if you looked at our roster and situation lately but there isn't anywhere to trim more fat to make room for a rookie QB that played well against 3rd string backs.

IT'S THAT SMIPLE.

Posted by Mike @ 1:06 AM Tue, Sep 04, 2007

Goober, keep going man you're on a roll. You're my hero right now as I don't have to type anything... except this:

Billy, Goober hasn't said Moore will or won't be anything. It's not up to him. He's merely saying what he is right now and that we don't have room for that which likely can't help us now or even 3 years from now. We didn't have room for injured Jimmy Smith years ago either but you don't get everything you want. Sometimes you have a full bus. You people are the ones saying he "WILL" do anything when you have NOTHING to substantiate it other than some completed passes in the 2nd half of preseason games. THAT is just stupid. I would be here all friggin' week naming QBs that had one or two good preseason games and never played a down.

Posted by Goober @ 1:09 AM Tue, Sep 04, 2007

Kurt, dude, by definition he is a scrub until he proves otherwise. Not one team felt he was worth a draft pick. He has less real value that the man that is deemed "Mr. Irrelevant" year after year and as such, is subject to being cut and left penniless. In addition to EVERY team passing on him MANY times, Many teams that could still use a good project guy passed him right up, too! He's a scrub, he's gonna have to work his butt off to become anything more than a scrub in the future. Don't worry, maybe we can pick him up after the Panthers cut him or put him on the practice squad, and they probably will do one or the other at some point because ideally you'd like every guy on your active roster to be able to contribute SOMETHING, even if just special teams, and the Panthers aren't good enough to keep too much dead weight for too long on their 53.

Posted by John Kochtosten @ 12:30 PM Tue, Sep 04, 2007

Absolutely the Cowboys should have kept him. He's not a baseball reject that cost the team millions in signing bouse, after all. After Romo demonstrates his one hit wonderness and Brad Johnson gets criticized by TO for not being able to throw passes over 10 yards, the Cowboy fans will be screaming for Moore.