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Posted by theogt @ 10:44 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Anyone who said he was elite was an idiot. He did have an amazing game, though. And it wasn't necessarily because the Cowboys defense. He was remarkably quick on his reads and accurate. I doubt the same guy shows up this Sunday.

Posted by raff hollister @ 10:48 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Albert,

Not really sure who you were listening to, but no one I know considers Eli to be an elite QB.

Fact is he never has been, isn't, and never will be. He may have the genes, but he doesn't have thee talent or drive that his brother has.

Average may be even a little bit of an overstatement considering the playmakers he has on offense.

Posted by DLWilliams @ 10:49 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Eli is as inconsistent as QB as the rest of his team has been since day one. Even when the team is healthy he plays horrible. He rattles easy and that plays into our pressuere. Is he over rated. NO. I think he has a lot to live up to being a Manning. Dad - NFL Great QB, Brother - Peyton, rewriting what it is to be an NFL QB. That is Pressure. I think he will straighten out, I hope that it is not against the my Cowboys.

Posted by ron mexico @ 10:52 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

I believe the discussion at the time was about how "Eli finally figured out the NFL" or something like that. Many of the easterner blowhards on ESPN were touting this as his coming out. And yes, they are idiots. Eli has suckered people in every year, only to implode during the 2nd half. Sounds like the implosion has started early this year.

Posted by Joe @ 10:56 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

I don't think Eli Manning has ever shown himself to be an elite quarterback, it's just in the early starts of every season he has shown the potential to live up to being a #1 pick. However, as the months in the season go by, he has historically dropped off, just as the Giants have the past few years.

September QB Rating:
05 - 88.7
06 - 95.5
07 - 81.9

October QB Rating:
05 - 80.3
06 - 82.6
07 - 76.7

November QB Rating:
05 - 77.7
06 - 52.9

December QB Rating:
05 - 64.1
06 - 79.1

Posted by mattyinnj @ 10:57 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

The only people I have ever encountered who claim that Eli is an elite QB are the Giants apologists who try and minimize the FACT that the Giants gave up (in theory)...

Philip Rivers, or say Big Ben given that he was still available

Shawne Merriman

Nate Kaeding, or someone of quality that could go at that spot

...for a guy who is definitely a decent but unspectacular QB. He is simply not elite. Elite to me is maybe 6 guys:

Brady
P. Manning
Palmer
Favre (debatable, but this year he's money)
Brees
Romo (and even he isn't THERE yet, but getting close)

No way is he worth #1 overall money, let alone 3 huge picks as well.

Posted by StB @ 10:58 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Eli's success in the first game is the same line we are hearing about the NY defense this week. The Cowboys were getting used to their new scheme just like the Giants are claiming. Why is everyone overlooking that simple fact?

Posted by Habib @ 10:59 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Yeh the Forest Gump of NFL QBs is way over rated.He gets rattled very easily and is not an accurate passer.The Cowboys are going to CRUSH the Girly Boys.

Posted by gpaq @ 11:00 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

i live in nyc & read/see alot of Eli. giants fans still believe this guy will live up to #1. he won't. he's a pretty good QB. that's it. giants fans assume that his last name is manning that he'll be great. the ny media is tough but rarely criticize eli.

Posted by John @ 11:03 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

No one ever said that Eli is an elite QB, he is not. But to those who think Romo, (snap botcher boy), is an elite QB you're fooling yourselves.
He's played 17 games and when he has been really tested, against the Pats and in the playoffs, slippery fingers has come up short.

Posted by DougO @ 11:04 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

AB, I don't know who you've been hanging out with, but I don't know anybody who called Eli "elite" at the start of this season. But Cowboys fans are always concerned about him because he tends to have big games against the Cowboys, at least in the last couple of minutes. He is capable of changing a game in a hurry. And if you look around the NFC, who else would you call elite anyway? Unless you've been in denial about McNabb the last couple of years, there's not much out there that qualifies.

Posted by Harry @ 11:07 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

We'll see who the tough team is, Cowgirls.
Who cares if Eli is nt an elite QB? Just win.
Romo is unproven and he might need to get himself checked out after messing with skank Britney.

Posted by clay @ 11:10 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

People seem to think Eli's either just below elite, or that he stinks. Really, he's somewhere in between, about average overall, but better than most when he's on, and worst than most when he's off.

Posted by Lance @ 11:13 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Average is a good way to describe him so far. For a number one pick he is not a bust (see David Carr) and he is nowhere close to being a Peyton.

Posted by Mike @ 11:14 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Greer, Eli can only be very good when his team rushes for close to 150 yards or Burress comes down with that eyes-closed sky ball he throws (which is usually, unfortunately).

He can't even hit Shockey. Also, without the overachieving game in Week 1 this guy is graggin' his knuckles with barely 10 TD passes in 8 games.

Posted by Derek @ 11:16 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Romo is unproven?!? What more does he have to do?

He's led his team to a 7-1 record. Not bad.

After the 'Boys are 8-1 this weekend, will Tony "prove himself" to you, Hairy?

Posted by 05mustang @ 11:17 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Once again another great post by Breer! Keep this up and we'll quickly forget that you came from the Northeast...:-)

Posted by Teddy @ 11:21 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

In his first 47 starts as a pro, Eli's 26-21 and has thrown 53 interceptions. In Peyton's first 47 starts, he was 25-22 with 57 picks. So his number is very similar to his brother's. Of course, he has a better support cast than his brother's. How could you say he will not be an elite QB? He is not yet. That is for sure.

Maybe it takes a while for him to develop. Very few QBs can be an elite QB immediately. This is only his 4th year and he has already taken his team to a NFC East title and another wild card playoff spot. That is not too bad. Tom Brady won a super bowl in his second year, but he is an exception. Ben won a super bowl in the second year, but he performed so bad in the super bowl. They won despite of him. Very few QBs can win quickly out of college. Aikman did not win a single game in his first year. Steve Young could not even stay in Tampa Bay at the beginning and he had to be traded to San Francisco. And so on and so on.

Remember Romo is in his 5th year and he is one year senior than Eli Manning. At least according to Parcells, that helps Romo a lot to learn on the side line these years. Eli Manning has always performed pretty well against Dallas maybe he is just more familiar with Dallas scheme. That means experience will help him. He did well against Falcons whose defense coordinator is from Dallas so he knew the defense scheme well. Wade's defense scheme is well known everywhere. Eli played against San Diego's defense a couple of years ago. After the season open game, I remember some Dallas defense players said New York players seemed to know better about Dallas defense than themselves. Once again experience helps him to succeed in that game.

Do not bery Eli Manning so earlier. He has done well against Dallas defense in the past and he will continue to give trouble to Dallas defense in the past.

Posted by Mark @ 11:23 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

John, Peyton Manning lost to the Patriots, too. What does that tell you. Romo didn't lose the Patriots' game, the Cowboys did. Along with 98 yards worth of stupid penalties.

By the way, I have yet to hear any Cowboys fans, or their writers say that he is an elite QB. Will he be? Perhaps. But were I building a team, and I had to choose between Romo or Manning, I would choose Romo in a heartbeat. He bobbled a snap in the playoffs, so what! We shouldn't have been in that position in the first place.

Nice try.

Posted by Payton @ 11:24 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

I used to beat him up every other day. He is just a pansy little brother who could never change his own underwear. I told him if he ever got good at quarterbackin, I'd give him a giant wedgy

Posted by GS @ 11:27 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Gotta disagree with you on this one... sort of. I don't think Eli is "elite" and I don't know many who do. How many "elite" QBs are there in the league if one of your qualifications is consistency? Two? Brady and P Manning?

On the other hand, "average" would be underating Eli. I'd reserve average for the Damon Huords and Phillip Rivers of the league.

Eli is streaky and can rip a team apart when hot and can rip HIS team apart when cold. If I were the Cowboys, I would committ to stopping the run and take my chances.

Posted by G-Money @ 11:32 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

One other thought... the Giants have GOT to lead the league in dropped passes. They are good for at least 4 drops per game when Eli hits them in the numbers.

Posted by Brian M., Atlanta @ 11:45 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Eli is a "good" QB, "great" is reserved for those who can show consistency, and even more so consistency in big games. Is Romo in the 'elite' category yet, no he is not, but will he be? Well, I'd certainly give him a leg up on Eli in getting there. Romo has risen to the top tier of NFL QB rankings in far less time it has taken Eli to remain average-good from a stats and rankings standpoint. The top 5 QBs in the NFL today; Brady,Peyton,Romo,Palmer,Brees. So while Romo is not yet 'elite' with Brady and Peyton in that category all alone, he's getting there and some playoff victories notched in his belt of consistency would do a lot in speeding his ascent to that level.

Posted by Fraggy @ 11:51 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

oh, please! not the "dropped" passes excuse. every team in the league has plenty of them. the cowboys have the number one pass-dropper(at one point, anyway) in the league, yet romo is still one of the highest rated qb's. you're gonna have to do better than that.

Posted by imajin @ 11:59 AM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Alot of haters will continue to label Romo as unproven. The seattle slip does not make him a bad qb, it makes him a bad fg holder. 17 games is equivalent to a season. He's played against some pretty good teams along the way and beaten them (indi last year). If you take a look at the NFL today, ROMO is an elite QB, Eli is not.

Posted by Tony H*mo @ 12:00 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Tony "Opie" Romo has had a few good games. The Cowgirls will regret signing him to that deal.
He is more worried about getting his face in the tabloids. He was a nobody before he got the money and then all of sudden Carrie Underpants showed up. There's a reason why Romo was/is a backup. The Giants are going to the knock field goal butcher out of the game. I hope Brad Johnson is taking some snaps.

Posted by Kevin @ 12:04 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Romo an elite QB? Please, he's been playing for about a year. What happens when its a big game, the playoffs last year, the Pats? He did nothing and contributed to the loss. Oh that's right, the penalties are what lost the game, not Romo.
The excuses are starting already for when the Cowturds lose. They will say it wasnt Romo that lost the game, it was the defense, or special teams or the coach. Get those excuses ready.

Posted by TWJB @ 12:08 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

We'll see how good Eli is this week. Critical Giant fans will be on the house watching his every move. Ellis and Ware will be bringing it...Tank will be trying to make a statement. Eli will be rattled early....

I'm sick of folk talking about the Giants, week 1, and the new defense. The Cowboys were in the same damn boat; a new defense, no Newman, no Ellis, a new offense.

The Boys win by 20. Tank will keep lineman off James and pressure Eli all game. Henry will challenge Burress and come up big.

Posted by Donovan @ 12:09 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Eli being overrated depends on who you listen to. I don't think he's overrated, but I don't think he's worth #$%^ to begin with.

Drafted by his pedigree.

Posted by Chris @ 12:22 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Why are some of you insisting it was Romo's fault against the Pats? It was a team lost. Even Peyton couldn't overcome 48 pts that was scored against Dallas that day.

Posted by texicanstar @ 12:25 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

"Tony H*mo"??? Is that you RAMS FAN??? You forgot to put all your comments in CAPS.

What would life be like without some mindless drivel such you provide?

Go Cowboys...Ellis, Ware, and company. Have a hug-fest at Eli's expense.

Posted by d-dog @ 12:36 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Eli is a gutless wonder ,he might be the most overrated QB in a long time.Thank the good lord that the boys didn't end up that idiot.

Posted by evilinc @ 12:37 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Eli is clearly not an elite QB. As said, he's inconsistent. Capable of having the really good game, but just as capable of stinking it up.

As for Romo, what have some of these people been smoking? And did you bring enough for everybody?

Not elite? The nutjobs might want to go back and check the numbers. 18 career reg season starts, 5211 yards, 38 TDs, a career completion percentage of 64.9%, while averaging 13.4 yards per COMPLETION (give some thought to that and check other QBs) and a career rating of 97.4 (a rating of 100 or better in 9 of those 18 starts,2 with a rating of at least 90 and 2 more with a rating of at least 80, meaning 13 of 18 starts with at least an 80 rating), a team record of 13-5 during those starts, one playoff appearance, one pro bowl and a second consecutive one a given.

Oh no, he's not elite (said while rolling eyes over-dramatically with a facial expression clearly conveying the opinion that those who claim otherwise are demonstrably incompetent and quite possibly in need of institutionalization before they hurt themselves).

Sheesh.

Scary thought: 3 of the most outstanding QBs of the last decade?

Kurt Warner
Tom Brady
Tony Romo

Only Brady was drafted, and in the 6th round.

Who says the draft isn't a crapshoot?

Posted by Tony H*mo @ 12:56 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Romo has not played for that long. He is not that good. He is backup player who got lucky.
The clinic is calling Tony, you better get yourself to the doctor's.
The Cowgirls are worried about the Giants and the hicks will make excuses when they lose. Yeah we lost but we're still tied for first place, yeah we lost but it was my hick boots that got in the way. T.O. better get his pills ready, not his popcorn.

Posted by Tom Salagaj @ 12:59 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Ratings...Numbers....consistency....TD passes...picks....These will all mean absolutely nothing if the Giants win Sunday. All that will matter with regard to Eli is 6-3 or 7-2. If it's 7-2 then he's a hero. If it's 6-3 then Romo is the hero.

Posted by Jeff @ 1:04 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Romo the skank chaser and snap botcher is just another Cowboys QB failure. Ever since Aikman, Ryan Leaf, Chad Hutchinson, Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson, there has been crap at QB.
Romo has proven nothing and will be a bench player once again.

Posted by Mark @ 1:10 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Who cares about stats? The only thing that will matter is when the Giants beat the pansies from Dallas who are full of themselves and love to blame anyone for their mistakes. The refs, "the slippery football" last year in the playoffs and Parcells. The soft players are not accountable for their actions. Wade (I've won nothing)Phillips is running a country club and letting the players do what they want.

Posted by Kip @ 1:15 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Romo, pay no mind to the posts.
I know how you are.
I'll see you after the game.
Kip.

Posted by Mark @ 1:40 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Hey, there is another 'Mark' on here. Please don't confuse that dink with me. I should have thought of a more unique name, like 'saint jimmy', or 'Mike'.

Not that it makes much difference, but I will change mine to 'MarkE'... until someone steals that, too.

I will say, in all fairness, Eli isn't the worst QB in the league, and is probably in the top 15, and if our defense doesn't pressure him he will probably do pretty well. On the flip side, he does rattle rather easily, so I believe if we come out on defense first and not offense, we can let our defense set the pace again, like we did in Philly.

I know most won't see it that way, but it really makes sense to me.

Posted by Roy Banes @ 1:40 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Kevin, you are the turd. Your ignorance is beyond comprhension. I don't know who your team is, but I suspect it's the Giants. Keep your Eli and we will keep our Tony Romo. We will see who comes out to be the better of the two. So he botched a snap as a holder for the winning fieldgoal, big friggin deal. Look how many times Eli has screwed up a play and then just stands there with that goofy look on his face. We are not making any excuses for Tony, it is a team effort, win or loose and that includes the coaching staff. Wether you know it or not, when your team gets 98 yards in penalties it will impact on the team seriously. Loss of yards can affect the play, a first down or a touchdown or simply keeping a drive going. But you are too stupid to understand any of that. When Eli plays the Pats, we will see how good they do. At least we led for a short period in the third qtr. aginst them. More than any team has done this year. The Colts played a very good game against them even though they lost.

Posted by Mark @ 1:40 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Hey, there is another 'Mark' on here. Please don't confuse that dink with me. I should have thought of a more unique name, like 'saint jimmy', or 'Mike'.

Not that it makes much difference, but I will change mine to 'MarkE'... until someone steals that, too.

I will say, in all fairness, Eli isn't the worst QB in the league, and is probably in the top 15, and if our defense doesn't pressure him he will probably do pretty well. On the flip side, he does rattle rather easily, so I believe if we come out on defense first and not offense, we can let our defense set the pace again, like we did in Philly.

I know most won't see it that way, but it really makes sense to me.

Posted by Mark @ 1:40 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Hey, there is another 'Mark' on here. Please don't confuse that guy with me. I should have thought of a more unique name, like 'saint jimmy', or 'Mike'.

Not that it makes much difference, but I will change mine to 'MarkE'... until someone steals that, too.

I will say, in all fairness, Eli isn't the worst QB in the league, and is probably in the top 15, and if our defense doesn't pressure him he will probably do pretty well. On the flip side, he does rattle rather easily, so I believe if we come out on defense first and not offense, we can let our defense set the pace again, like we did in Philly.

I know most won't see it that way, but it really makes sense to me.

Posted by JD @ 1:40 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

To all Giants Fans
Facts to chew on:
E. Manning - 2005 playoff vs Panthers
10-18, 113 yds, 3INT, 0TD, 4 sacks, qb rating 35
E. Manning - 2006
2-6 in last 8 games of the season, qb rating 65.5

T. Romo - 2006 playoff vs Seattle
17-29, 189, 0INT, 1TD, 2 sacks, qb rating 89.6
T. Romo - 2006
5-3 in last 8 games of the season, qb rating 94

HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES!

Posted by JD @ 1:40 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

To all Giants Fans
Facts to chew on:
E. Manning - 2005 playoff vs Panthers
10-18, 113 yds, 3INT, 0TD, 4 sacks, qb rating 35
E. Manning - 2006
2-6 in last 8 games of the season, qb rating 65.5

T. Romo - 2006 playoff vs Seattle
17-29, 189, 0INT, 1TD, 2 sacks, qb rating 89.6
T. Romo - 2006
5-3 in last 8 games of the season, qb rating 94

HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES!

Posted by Carl L @ 1:40 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Albert, man you were on a roll with your posts. Everything was quality, creative, and real in-depth, until this one. I don't know a single person who is a fan of football that thinks Eli Manning is an elite QB.

Posted by Roy Banes @ 1:41 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Kevin, you are the turd. Your ignorance is beyond comprhension. I don't know who your team is, but I suspect it's the Giants. Keep your Eli and we will keep our Tony Romo. We will see who comes out to be the better of the two. So he botched a snap as a holder for the winning fieldgoal, big friggin deal. Look how many times Eli has screwed up a play and then just stands there with that goofy look on his face. We are not making any excuses for Tony, it is a team effort, win or loose and that includes the coaching staff. Wether you know it or not, when your team gets 98 yards in penalties it will impact on the team seriously. Loss of yards can affect the play, a first down or a touchdown or simply keeping a drive going. But you are too stupid to understand any of that. When Eli plays the Pats, we will see how good they do. At least we led for a short period in the third qtr. aginst them. More than any team has done this year. The Colts played a very good game against them even though they lost.

Posted by G-Money @ 1:43 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Hey, Fraggy... study up before you start running your mouth.

. Eli Manning (13.2 percent) - The Giants have dropped 13 passes over the course of four games.

In case you're wondering, only 3 QBs have a higher dropped passes rate.

P.S. The shift key will allow you to capitalize letters.

Posted by G-Money @ 1:46 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Fraggy... a more current ranking has the Giants with the most dropped passes in the league - 24. For your reading pleasure:

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Receiving&rank=232

Posted by Steve C @ 1:47 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

OK, I am a Cowboys fan, but this is ridiculous.

How could you possibly write an in-depth analysis of Eli's performance this year without even *mentioning* that he played through a shoulder injury which was supposed to sideline him for a month?

Posted by Bryan @ 1:53 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Yankees calling Romo in question when they have the "Non-Manning"!

We'll see this weekend. good luck to a team with a mediocre QB and a RB that will gain....70?

Happy crappy teams to all of NY/NJ!

Jes too

Posted by Brandon B @ 1:58 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Ignore Breer, he is just trying to stir things up. It is only the east coast homers trying to talk up the Giants that even begin to believe Eli is something more than an average QB. The comments I remember were that Eli was playing for his job coming into this season considering the melt down last season.

Posted by Ken @ 2:00 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

The gayboys will lose this weekend. Who cares if Eli looks a certain way or has a mediocre game? All that matters is the win. The Cow pokers love to quote the stats Who cares?
You will lose the game and will not win in the playoffs to stretch the streak of winless playoff games to 11 years. Go Pats!

Posted by Andrew @ 2:06 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

The Cowboys are severely overrated. They have played no one and have struggled against the Bills and Vikings. I dont care about the game ( which the Giants win will) because I am a Steelers fan. Cowboys are a soft team, like their coach, QB.
Jerry Jones should have used that money for snapper boy on a new face lift.

Posted by Andrew (different than the guy above me) @ 2:37 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Yeah, like the Steelers haven't played a soft schedule.

Through Week 9, Dallas has a Strength of Schedule of .499. The Steelers have an ABYSMAL SOS of .405 ... good for third easiest in the league.

(By the way, the Bills are 4-4, and had they pulled out the game in Dallas, they'd be 5-3. They also have an SOS of .498.

Oh, and as for the title "Eli overrated?," you might as well post something less obvious, like "Sky blue?"

Posted by Andrew @ 2:47 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

You Cowgirl fans are all about the stats. You love to talk junk about strength of schedule. Please look who you've played, the Dolphins, Bears, Rams, Vikings ( who should have beat you too), the Bills, and Pats, who wiped the floor with you. And pill popper T.O. was not even gracious in defeat, saying the Pats were not great, just good. And who the F is Crayton shooting his mouth off, saying we'll see them again. Talk about someone who's done nothing.
Pipe down loser, the Pats just scored on you again.

Posted by Scott @ 2:52 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Eli overrated? I've never thought so. Eli's considered a slightly above normal QB. And a normal QB right now is crap.

Wow, just looked at Football Outsiders and they rate Eli horribly. Eli's about equal to Steve McNair and he's beyond awful. Maybe he is overrated...

Posted by Vox Veritas @ 3:05 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

"You Cowgirl fans are all about the stats. You love to talk junk about strength of schedule. Please look who you've played, the Dolphins, Bears, Rams, Vikings ( who should have beat you too), the Bills, and Pats, who wiped the floor with you."

And the Giants. Don't forget the Giants, scrubs.

Posted by gbm @ 3:42 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

If you take the average of drops per team (excluding the highest and lowest) you get 14.1, with everything it is 14.5. So assuming the giants receivers were in the middle of the pack in drops, that would raise Eli to 159 Completions on 249 attempts, which comes out to 63.86 completion percentage, which is just above the league average. Is he elite, no. Is he above average, yes

Posted by Saint Jimmy @ 3:50 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Albert, you've been listening to Calvin too much. I haven't heard the Cowboys fans saying that Eli is a great QB. In fact I've been implying all week long that Eli is going to be the reason the Giants lose this week.

Posted by david @ 4:02 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

The giants (and Eli) really struggled with Miami. Bring the bastards on.

Posted by David @ 4:04 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Vox Veritas likes little boys.

Posted by Vox Veritas @ 4:48 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Did you guys know that shEli has thrown 4 INTs inside of the two minute warning before halftime? Just thought I'd let you know. He's also terrible on 3rd down. 72.0 passer rating on 3rd down.

Posted by Andrew (still the other one) @ 7:21 PM Thu, Nov 08, 2007

Yes Andrew (the bad one)... and look who YOU'VE played. The NFC West ... the most abysmal division in football. And you LOST to Arizona. Pathetic. Plus pushovers like Cincy (the land that defense forgot), Denver, and BAL missing their two top corners.

And who do you have coming up? The Jets and Miami? Ohhh ... frightening.

Face it ... a Steeler fan saying Dallas' schedule has been light is the pot calling the kettle black.