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![]() DMN FILE Some of you folks don't seem too fond of the Cowboys interviewing Dave Campo for the secondary coaching gig. I posted the above picture so we could go ahead and get all the Sea World jokes out of the way. (And because I couldn't find a clip of the classic Hard Knocks episode on YouTube.) Go ahead and get the 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 rants out of your system, too. Campo's incompetency as a head coach has nothing to do with his ability to coach defensive backs. He sure seemed smart when he earned two Super Bowl rings as a secondary coach and a third as a defensive coordinator. There's no way you can question his qualifications for the position. Now, if your concern is that this is evidence that Jerry is making decisions without Wade Phillips having much say, you might have a point. If that's the case, special teams coach Bruce Read better watch his back. Joe Avezzano is just a phone call away. |
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Posted by 666 @ 10:25 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
I'm sure he will not mind, I am repeating WilliamC's previous posting here because it says exactly what I would say:
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Posted by WilliamC @ 10:12 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
REGARDING CAMPO, AND MOST OTHER MOVES THE COWBOYS MAKE, WHY DO YOU GUYS HAVE TO HAVE SUCH KNEE-JERK REACTIONS INSTEAD OF TAKING MAYBE 2-MINUTES TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.
No, Campo was not successful as the cowboys head coach, but in case you didnt notice, the cowboys are not talking to him about a head coaching position with the team.
The Jags Pass defense was only a middle of the pack last year, ranking 15th in the league. But under Campo the previous two seasons(with better personnel) The jags pass defense was a top 10-pass defense in the league.
The Cowboys won a Super Bowl and three division titles with Campo as defensive coordinator, so it would appear the man can coach a little bit, and for those of you who dont remember, this is not Chan Gailey. Dave Campo does have a fire in his coaching belly much more so than the dearly departed laid-back Todd Bowles. His more "enthusiastic" coaching style may be just what some of these secondary guys like Roy Williams needs.
So before you jump on evey move Jerry makes, try to do a little big picture thinking please.
Posted by Jim Burns @ 10:30 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
I dont even know what to say. That picture says a thousand words.
Jim Burns
Where am I ?
Posted by Bring Back Joe @ 10:31 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Regarding Joe Avezzano
Tell you what, Jerry's decision or not, I would love to have Joe back.
The special teams in 2007 were bad from game one, and thats with a lot of young talent that should have been pretty dang good.
So bring on Joe. Absolutely.
Posted by Rick Wagoner, CEO @ 10:31 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Dave Campo is exactly what I picture Tim Burns looks like. Congrats Tim, you finally are a Cowboy after all!
Posted by Rick Wagoner, CEO @ 10:31 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Dave Campo is exactly what I picture Tim Burns looks like. Congrats Tim, you finally are a Cowboy after all!
Posted by Jim Burns @ 10:43 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Campo wasn't successful as head coach? He had 3 years with the same success. Thats not easy to do.
Jim Burns
I'm right behind you
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 11:08 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
it looks like that fish floating belly up is tantamount to the Cowboy's 13-3/Final 8 season...good luck Cow-Pies...see ya next year...like Tim Burns says...see ya next year...unless I see you sooner within minutes...HA HA HA...Hail to the Redskins!!!...
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 11:12 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Deadskins Rule,
You got served earlier. Go see what little Napoleon is doing to your team and we'll see how that train wreck turns out. Let's see... Gibbs quits; the guy who was promised to take over gets fired today... and oh wait -- so did Al Saunders. Hmmm... lots of fun stuff going on in Foreskin land. No head coach? No problem -- Lil Danny Snyder to the rescue (lol). He is just a slight notch above Al Davis... barely.
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 11:23 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
to Scott in Austin...hmmmmm...it must be really slow tonight but you want to play...do you really want to play?...OK...what # did the immortal Rod Hill wear for the Cowboys?...and where were Jerry and Jimmy 1st caught kissing...LOL...
Posted by HAWAIIAN @ 11:32 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
everyone needs to RELAX. why is everyone bringing up Campo's tenure as a head coach. TRUE DALLAS COWBOYS FANS will know that the teams that Campo coached lacked a whole lot of TALENT, no QUESTION. I guess most people forget that Dave was a part of the Cowboys Dynasty in the 90's as an ASSISTANT and D-Coordinator. Seems like most people that contribute comments on the blog have no clue about the sport of football or the Cowboys organization. Thus, making that Drunk Rams fan look knowledgable.
Note to Rams Fan, I saw that the BOYS will be making a trip boring St.louie next season. CAN'T WAIT
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 11:33 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
RR,
Hmmm... are you really a Cowboys fan in disguise? You would have to be to even know who Rod Hill was -- and the # was 25. And they dined at Mia's... but I'm guessing you already knew that since you're in disguise. Maybe you're not so bad after all... just an Eddie Haskell type. I'm guessing you really know that the Redskins don't rule squat.
Posted by HAWAIIAN @ 11:37 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
i meant to say teams that Campo coached as the HEAD MAN, lacked a whole lot of talent. (wane mccgarity, dwayne goodrich, duane hawthrone,larimore, mario edwards, charon dorsey, soloman page coke head Q and the other scrubby Qbs not worth noting, YOU GET the point).
Posted by Jim Burns @ 11:40 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Hawaiin,
The same talent Campo had also went 10-6 when Parcells got here. He is just a yes man , or good ol boy and thats it. He is the last kid picked in kick ball, the 1 who tries real hard but you just know something is wrong. I would fire the defensive coordinator today and hire Gregg Williams tonight.
Jim Burns
My moms bed
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 11:43 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
I'm not sure everybody is getting this picture on this blog...but Camps and Coach Joe are modeling the home uniforms that Jerry is gonna roll out on national TV during next year's Thanksgiving Day game...they are called the "Triple Blue Star Black Neoprene 'Sea World/Cowboys' Victory Wet Suit/Thingy"...I'm sure all you Cow-Dolts will be buying a version at Jerry's beads and trinkets stand next year...I've already seen Wayne Phillips and Roy Willie modeling theirs...yik...talk about rolls...HA HA HA...Hail to the Redskins!!!...
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 11:48 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Personally I'm not too bent out of shape over Campo coming back -- if he really is. It's the talent on the field that makes a coach either a "genius" or an "idiot". Campo has proven he can coach up a defense so that's not really a problem. I do hope, however, that we focus on getting some young blood into the secondary thru the draft -- and maybe Drayton Florence too if we can't fit one of the top guys into the budget.
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 11:51 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Redskins Rule,
You're not fooling me any more. You're not really a Redskins fan because I find it interesting that you know more about the Cowboys than you do your own team. Just not sure why you're doing the act except that maybe you're just bored and enjoy stirring up stuff.
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 11:53 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
to Scott in Austin...I actually thought Hill wore #26 but I trust you are right [must have a pre-season media guide handy as I'm not sure he even made it past the final cuts]...anyways the Redskins always rule...you know that coming from the most tolerant place in TX...and its not fair telling me to lay off Burnie while you are roasting him slowly over the fire...LOL...
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 12:05 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Redskins Rule,
Ummm... I'm not sure what you're talking about -- who's Burnie; when did I tell you to lay off and how am I roasting him slowlyover the fire? Maybe you have me mixed up with someone else? I was just slamming back against the anti-Cowboys info. Figured I'd slam the Redskins for awhile.
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 12:05 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
And besides, it doesn't matter who Snyder hires because the Redskins ALWAYS rule, and Redskins fans will ALWAYS buy tickets no matter how bad Snyder screws up the team. You think Sean Taylor was special? Danny's got his eyes on two guys that can sell four times the crack that #21 did! And that's a good thing because us Redskin fans like to pass the long off-seasons by smoking lots of crack...LOL...
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 12:23 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
wow...somebody has their panties in a twist and is being a naughty naughty bad boy...LOL...Dumbledore...I need some guidance here soon!!!...
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 12:27 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
ooooooookay... I was just curious, but no biggie. I really don't know who Burnie is... lol. That's a wrap for tonight. Actually don't think Redskins Rule is a bad guy after all. What am I saying??
Posted by HAWAIIAN @ 12:28 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Burns,
lets check the FACTS. the roster during Parcells first year and Campos last year were quite different. i mean yeah he had Woody and overrated Roy Will and did a nice job with coke head and T-HAM and also had Newman and Witten fresh. but he also brought in a few of "HIS GUYS"(TG, Richie Anderson, Dan Campbell a few other VETS) and got rid of scrubs that Campo started and played often (too many to name). though i do agree that coaching had a lot to do with it. my point is and has been that Campo has been successful as a position coach as well as a coordinator. everyone is ripping him for the Jags' Def stats in the playoff games, which makes no sense when you take into account that no team has been able to stop the cheaters.
HAWAIIAN
Posted by Greybeard @ 12:45 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
As far as chilling out about Campo, you answered yourself very well, Tim. Jerry's back in charge and while he helped to make this team successful early on, he didn't do it on his own. In the "what have you done for me lately" category, doing it his way has this team in its longest drought ever regarding playoff wins and its second longest Super Bowl drought. Take the bad with the good, the saying goes.
If Wade was looking for a DB coach with 3-4 experience, he won't be getting it. Phillips has mentioned that there had been communication issues regarding coverage between the LBs and DBs at times, so naturally we hire a 4-3 guy to work with the DBs while we will likely hire a 3-4 guy to work with the LBs. That should help communications.
Besides, if Campo's so good than why, to paraphrase Mickey Spagnola, is he available? Campo had the title of Asst. Head Coach/DB coach in Jacksonville and has multiple seasons as a defensive coordinator. He's been with the Jags three years and despite his credentials he isn't promoted or as far as we know, even considered for their DC position when the job comes open? Maybe, just maybe, their coach will actually choose his own assistants. What a novel idea.
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 12:52 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
to Scott in Austin...if you've missed the past 2 weeks on this blog...you've missed a lifetime...the popcorn is poppin all over the place...LOL...Hail to the Redskins!!!...
Posted by Erik Thomas @ 1:14 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Campo never lost to the Redskins as a head coach.Hmmm....
Posted by jtt @ 1:24 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Bill in DC, (posting this here for the other thread will be removed by tomorrow)
If you believe that statement on Johnson's departure, I have realestate for sale that you might consider buying....Jimmy's ego was/maybe still is just as large as Jones; with all due respect, Jones had had it with Johnson getting the lion's share of their success and went ballistic when Johnson humiliated him at a hotel's bar with most of his assistant in attendance shortly after the second Super Bowl victory. Jimmy was so burned out that he immediately jumped into the other head coaching job that he would ever be interested in Miami.
This argument is similar to the one proposed by many that Bill "quit on his own last February"; anyone can read the tea leaves, why did it take him "5-6 weeks to become burned out" and yet less than ten months later he was interviewing with TWO NFL clubs to return to the league? Parcells would have never left Dallas last year had Jones wanted him to stay. Again I refer you to Cowlishaw's recent column where he (Tim C) advocated keeping Wade for one more season......JOnes was GOING TO FIRE PARCELLS HAD HE NOT RESIGNED.....I buy into that only because again BP's press conferences were the highlight/classics of the week in Dallas last season, then he had the audacity to demote Drew B (one his own guys) for an untested kid in the middle of a division game against a hated rival. Jones was never consulted, he was livid as his post game comments would attest. As the Romo legend began to unfold, so did Bill's stature with the local/national press (many who could not stand his czar attitude begrudginly gave him credit for making what has turned out to be "a franchise changing move". Ditto when he actually cut the most accurate kicker in NFL history......who else would have had the brass ba$$$ to do that, placing the team's welfare ahead of signing bonuses and the owner's feelings??
Jerry cannot be upstaged by a hired hand, period end of story. I/many of us do not hate Jerry, we give him his props as as owner with an obsession to
win, but he has demonstrated that he is his own
worst enemy in trying to do just that.
I hope that you are right about the SB next year, but this franchise is on the way down with him as its sole leader......and now he wants to rehire another castoff in Campo, Art Shell anyone?? An assitant coach that will talk to him behind teh head coach's back?? He must have the answers on how to get Roy more productive to justify his huge signing bonus.
Bill you seem like a bright guy, wake up and read the history without the colored glasses and selective recall......I guess that it might be
blindingly clear.............
Posted by RAMS FAN @ 1:55 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
WHAT YOU BETTYERWORRY ABOUT IS THE RESURGENCE OFF THE SUPERB OFF SEASON WORKOUT CONING FROM THE OFF SEASON. DAVE CAMPO AINT GONNA HELP YOU BEAT THE RAMS THIS YEAR. MARC BULGER WILL GUID HIS TEAM TO ANOTHER SUPERBOWL, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE THIS DECADE? I PERDICT THE COW-VOMITS WILL PLAY WORSER THAN THEY DID LAST YEAR, AND WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS DONT YOU? I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THIS MEANS IT MEANS
SCOREBOARD RAMS! THEY ARE THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE NFC THIS YEAR SUCKAS.
Posted by Heartbroken fan @ 2:10 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Wade Phillips, Grantham and now Campo. The best way to waste such a young talented players on this team to keep looking for next years till Jerry Jones realizes that he should just be an "OWNER" like other winning teams.
Posted by .... @ 4:08 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Heartbroken fan... don't lose sight of the fact that we've finally put together pieces to this team that have a legitimate shot at a Super Bowl. I don't care what happened in the first playoff game.
And RAMS FAN... go buy a dictionary, you sorry turd. Lay off the vodka, and tell Marc Bulger to lay off the Vicatin once in a while, and perhaps your LAMBS will actually reach .500 next year...
Deadskins Rule, you sorry piece of trash. Daniel Snyder is the worst thing to happen to football. Enjoy finishing dead last in the division next year.
Posted by P @ 5:43 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Why would the Cowboys even dream of bringing that deadbeat coach Campo back to Dallas? I think maybe Jones has finally gone senile. Campo should go down as one of the top two worst head coaches in Dallas history. It
s probably best that they shove Jones in a home for the elderly, and inform Campo he isn't even qualified to a waterboy in the NFL.
Posted by garbeau @ 6:03 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
my father-in-law in cleveland says campo got more with less the two years he coached browns db's. he should know as he's been a browns fan since the days of otto graham and marion motley.
and for those who want to gripe about campo's cowboys h-c tenure or how jags db's did in the playoffs, remember, the coach can't suit-up. and in these cases, had he, it would have been worse...although i'm certain his technique would have been first-rate:-)
as for joe-a making a return to run s-t's, i think it's a great idea. the man can coach! and if jerry lets him show-up on dale's show sunday nights, all the better!
Posted by Hap @ 7:17 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Redskinneds_Rule the cellar/Rammed Fanny,
So, you want to spar ? Al and Greg and Gibbs and Frontiere are gone and you both lack direction so you end up on our blog thinking you're getting us off our game. We won more games than the 2 of you COMBINED. Guess what ? It happens again next season. End of story.
Shouldn't you be trying to sway public opinion re: your teams ? That's the reason your teams are in the shape they're in-Rams Fans and Skinneds Fans are misguided idiots. It takes so little to keep your teams fans around that the ownership doesn't care. They just throw ya'll a new over the hill free agent, ya'll get excited about your teams chances and you buy tix and fan gear !
Kurt Cobain said it best: "I wish I was like you-EASILY AMUSED !"
WE fans of the Dallas Cowboys hold ours to a higher standard, which is exactly why our prospects for success are much, much brighter than yours.
Posted by Don @ 7:24 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
I don't know why a lot of Cowboys fans are acting like Campo is returning to coach the team. So what he sucked as a Head Coach, that does not prevent him from being a hell of a defensive coach. I'm not going to rave about the success he has had as a defensive coach, but all I know is Roy had his best year while Campo was here and started to decline as soon as Parcells took over.
Posted by Mik @ 7:53 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Let's get real. There really wasn't much to coach out there during Campo's tenure. Nobody on his team but Flo, Ellis, and Allen were in the NFL past 2004 or 2005.
There really isn't any way to evaluate Campo's coaching abilities when you look at the players he had. Just pitiful.
Posted by mmartin @ 7:58 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
"Avazzano, Avvazzano, Avvazzano!!!" :-)
Posted by Other @ 8:24 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Hmmmm, let's see, the Skins have/had failed head coaches at BOTH co-ordinator positions and they're doggin US about hiring a failed head coach (who ALWAYS defeated the skins) as a POSITION COACH?? LOL!
Posted by JJGM (Not!) @ 8:33 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Dallas fans are idiots. The fact Jerry Jones is going back to the 1990s to get washed up coaches from the glory days says it all.
Jerry has no clue how to find and retain qualified personnel. He only knows how to throw around money.
Houck, Campo, Phillips are exactly why this team needs a Qualified GM who is focused on being a GM. Jerry is a part time GM and it shows.
Posted by JJGM (Not!) @ 8:43 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
OK Dallas fans dogged Snyder for having high price Coordinators ..... er Jerry just over paid for Garrett.
Dallas fans are bashing Snyder for firing these high priced coordinators ...... Jerry won't hire a GM or Player Personnel VP.
Two peas in a pod if you ask me. Why Dallas fans are so ignorant to think Jerry is smarter than Snyder I dunno, and I hate both of them.
Posted by Hap @ 9:01 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
JJGM,
Here's why..3 Super Bowl rings, pal. More to come. Yes, JJ is filling holes right now, but what re you supposed to do when you get looted. JJ is far better than that assclown in DC.
Jerry's overpaying Garrett is a far different situation than Scneidley overpaying the whole damned coaching staff of underacheivers. The 2 situations do not compoare. JJ was retaining, Dannie Boy was attempting to build a supergroup and it full bore backfired.
Posted by Bill in DC @ 9:23 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
JJGM,
Would it be because Snyder has no SB for his efforts while Jerry (regardless of your opinion of how he got them) has 3?
The Redskins are going to be a joke, their young QB Jason Campbell will be working under the 5th or 6th OC in 4 years. That makes 5 offensive systems the team has to learn in 5 seasons? Now they are going to goto the 'West Coast Offense' under Zorn? I'm very glad because the 3-4 as played by Phillips is tailor made to defeat the West Coast. It's why people started converting to the 3-4 in the first place. West Coast is very effective against the 4-3, not so much against the 3-4.
Posted by Bill in DC @ 9:35 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
All,
Campo is NOT undefeated against the Redskins, he lost his last game against them with the words before the game, "if they can't beat Dallas this time, they never will". This was 12/29/2002 Washington 20- Dallas 14. Campo was fired the next day.
I think some of the criticism against Campo is unjustified. His team was not very talented and was that way because on the cap implosion that left him with pretty much a scrub team to coach. I mean really QBs Quincy Carter & Chad Hutchinson? RB an older Emmitt, WR Antonio Bryant, Galloway. What other result could you expect?
I think Campo is a very good coach, if anybody can get Williams back to form he can. Although I think Williams is better suited for a 4-3 than a 3-4.
Posted by PHILLIP @ 9:48 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
DAVE IS A GOOD PERSON AND A VERY GOOD D. BACK COACH.
HE DID A GREAT JOB WHEN HE WAS HERE AND I'M SURE HE WILL AGAIN. REMEMBER NOT ALL GOOD POSITION COACHES MAKE GREAT HEAD COACHS.
Posted by Bill in DC @ 9:55 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
jtt,
I think you're view of history is a tad skewed. Jimmy engineered his firing, plain an simple. He started it immediately after the 2nd Superbowl when, "The morning after the Cowboys celebrated their second straight Super Bowl victory two months ago, Jimmy was sniping at Jerry for all the news media to hear. And now Jimmy and Jerry are sniping at each other." Then at the owner's meeting "The plot thickened at a N.F.L. reception in Orlando, Fla., when Jerry walked over to where Jimmy was sitting with two of his former assistants who are now head coaches, Dave Wannstedt of the Bears and Norv Turner of the Redskins, as well as with Bob Ackles, a former Cowboys scouting director.
Jerry toasted the Cowboys' first Super Bowl triumph, in which all the men had shared a part, but Jerry was not invited to join Jimmy's group. Annoyed at the chill, Jerry returned to the bar, where he soon was growling about firing Jimmy and hiring Barry Switzer, once the professor of pigskin at Oklahoma and now at large. The next day, Jimmy left Orlando and later acknowledged having been "deeply hurt" by Jerry's remarks." I have to throw the BS flag on Jimmy. He's a master manipulator and he knowingly maneuvered Jerry into his actions. If Jimmy had not done the things he did Jerry would never have even thought about firing him. And of course we all got to see what a great coach Jimmy was on his own in Miami, didn't we?
In any case neither has been as good alone as they were together.
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 10:21 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Bill in DC,
Good point... and remember -- Jimmy Johnson has a degree in Psychology to boot. He knew what he was doing for sure.
What a waste for both guys though. Neither could do as well without the other.
Posted by JJGM (Not!) @ 11:29 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Jimmy's Miami teams went to the playoffs during his tenure and after his tenure.
Parcell's team went to the playoffs during his tenure and after his tenure.
Jerry's team's all went into the toilet after he lost great football minds.
Not a coincidence. Jerry and Dan Snyder are equal idiots. Only difrence is Snyder does not play pretend GM.
Posted by S L @ 11:33 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Campo coached LARRY BROWN to an MVP performance in the Super Bowl. That says all I need to know about what he can do with average talent in the secondary. Bring him in!
now if we could just make Neil O'Donnell the opposing QB every game...
Posted by tugturdwell @ 11:42 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Scott in Austin, Bill in DC... you both are right. It's like the Beatles...they were never as good individually as the sum of their parts. Both Jerry and Jimmy together screwed that up. We could have and should have won 4 SB's in a row at least during those years. What a shame.
And I forgot about Campo being there for Roy's first year. Maybe he can help Roy get his mojo back. That first year he was blowing people up...guys were just dropping in their tracks like they were gut shot after he smoked 'em.
Posted by ChiefStrongLung @ 3:07 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
if Campo is such a nice fit..why does cleveland or wherever he is coaching not want him back? this team is solidly in reverse gear if he comes back. Jerry Jones is loony toons. Get off the sidelines ya jerk!
Posted by DaBoys @ 4:27 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Hey Redskins Drool: Football Trivia? Didn't DaBoys "Rule" my hometown Foreskins for a period of about 5-6 years while we slapped that a$$ at home and away without much moaning or groaning coming from either you or any other sorry Skanks fan. Besides you are just mad cause your tamed team has amounted to a measely 2 bowl wins, and on one of our worst seasons we, (DaBoys) wiped that undefeated from 11-0 enroute to a 1-15 season. Cowboys pride baby, 5 SUPER BOWL WINS, can ur pigskins top that, I don't think so! We donate meaningless end of the season games to you and u still crying! p.s. I bet you are not even from D.C.!
Posted by ArnLayman @ 7:25 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Hey, Dave Campo is one of the most respected defensive coaches in the business, and his secondaries have always been among the league's best. As far as Joe Avezzano goes, the special teams have been rather mediocre since he left. That isn't a bad idea either. Oh, as far as Jacksonville not wanting Campo back, that isn't necessarily the case. Del Rio gave him permission to speak with the Cowboys.
Posted by mike @ 8:12 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
1.) The guy WANTS to be here 2.) Wade would probably like a former head coach, that's not a threat, to bounce stuff off of. 3.) He was a real good defensive coach for us at one time.
Let's get him!
Posted by DaBoys @ 8:52 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Campo was another lame duck of a coach while here in Big D. The defense and whole team played without any intensity. Big Reason why they hired ancient but fiery BP. If DaBoys were successful in the early 90's was because Jimmy was here and cause he'd left his mark on the whole team, hence '95 Super Bowl win under B. Switzer. Campo was another uninspired Wade! WHich reminds me, Bring JImmy BAck!
Posted by NoCalSwede @ 12:26 AM Mon, Jan 28, 2008
In his years as the defensive coordinator, I recall Dallas regularly placing in the top 5 or so defenses every year, even after the player losses that really hit around 1995. I'm not saying he's a head coach, but as defensive coordinator he got a lot of production out of a player pool with few stars. I think he'd be a great addition to the coaching staff.
Posted by Please hire quality caoches @ 7:03 AM Mon, Jan 28, 2008
Yes let's get a coach whose only success was with a group of guys that I could have coached to a top 5 ranking. Look at his tenure at various stops since. He sucks. I am not talking about his poor showing as a head coach. He sucked everywhere except when he was an assistant for a Dallas team that was built to dominate. He never made them better. Campo cannot coach. Face it.
Posted by jtt @ 6:35 PM Mon, Jan 28, 2008
The real genius on those mid-nineties defenses were Jimmy, Butch Davis, NOT CAMPO, NOT ZIMMER and the great personnel......both Campo and Zimmer (he was the only coach BP retained from the previous staff due to his hard nosed style, but he never did transition to the 3-4 very well) have little to show for their efforts post Dallas....for Campo to have been let go from A terrible Cleveland defense speaks volumes.
Bill you made my point on the Jimmy/Jerry split; Johnson worked for Jones not the other way around, delivered 2 SB in five years and thought "he was untouchable" after such unimaginable success, with more to come......yet Jerry wanted to be one of the boys (ala coaching staff) and Jimmy was not buying into that, since he did not have any on-field input. It became a pissing contest for sure, but Jimmy would have never left, just like Bill would have never left, if not for the outsized ego/need for validation GM. It is the boss' place to defuse such pettiness between parties, not become publicly embroiled in them, instead Jones threw more fuel on the issue by his infamous proclamation of "Any one of 500 coaches...."
Give Jones partial credit, for Dumbo Switzer proved that statement partially true two years later, further emphasizing just how great a foundation Johnson had built in those short four years.
Why should we be comparing "Loserville Snyder" to Jones? Snyder has proven decisively that he has plenty of money but no results in the NFL; Jones has proven that he hires well only to run his "good hires" out of town due to his need for validation.......u want to give Jones credit for his 3 SBs be my guest; history reads that he has bungled away another 2-3 SBs due to his GM's ineptness. IN fact, Snyder and Jones have the same amount of SB appearances since Snyder took over that franchise, a terrible legacy from a franchise that had one head coach the first 29 years of existence.
After the '96 SB win Dallas had been to the SB eight times or roughly 25% of the time; 12 years later New England will now have been to the SB six times winning four of the five (since 1997, they win Sunday). Jerry is 0-12 since then, I stand by my previous statement "HE WAS LUCKY TO HAVE KNOWN JIMMY IN COLLEGE AND HIRED HIM AND MOST OF HIS STAFF FROM "DA U".
Otherwise he would just be another Davis or Snyder........hiring Campo (prince of a guy a great neighbor) is emblematic of his style, not relaizing who the real workhorses were from those nineties teams.....