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Posted by John Wilkes @ 1:06 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

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Posted by JD @ 1:10 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Can't argue against anything you wrote except for Marion Barber. He consistently made plays. Just like it shouldn't be a popularity contest, it shouldn't be all about stats. The playoff game showed what he could have done, had they not wasted carries on Jones, who will also be at the airport, but not on the plane to the big mountain in the sea. But I digress, I think Barber made the most of his opportunities. Hope next year they get another back to complement him and let him go to work (not McFadden who will easily be chopped down by these fellas in the NFL). Good night, gotta go to work, so I better get some sleep. It's one hour later here in the DC area, but fortunately, no meetings for me tomorrow/today. Crayton:b*tch.

Posted by larry giusti @ 1:19 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Because they have an idiot for a head coach, and they are too young and immature to discipline themselves.

Posted by Deano @ 1:32 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

hate to say it - but the Cowboys are IDIOTS....I will still root for them though (30 years of it) --- so perhaps that makes me an idiot too --- Bluebood all the way....but c'mon guys --- you don't have to drive a dagger into the hearts of your fans by playing like you don't give a damn. Patrick Crayton -- shut up

Posted by Dave in Dubai @ 1:55 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

MBIII definitely should be going. I think we saw his potential in the last game. The man is a beast.

Gurode and Roy DEFINITELY do not deserve to be going. Gurode is a big powerful blocker, but the center position requires a bit more smarts and he also can't snap out of the 'gun. Roy is just total garbage. He needs to stop eating donuts with T.D. Jakes and start learning how to cover.

Hamlin, maybe I can see you contesting his berth. Maybe.

Posted by Trey @ 4:36 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the players, and the coaches get a third each of the voting. So apparently the Cowboys were popular with them also.

Posted by OFOR ROMO @ 4:44 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

It couldnt have worked out better for 0for Romo. He is most at comfortable vacationing in exotic locations. While in Hawaii he can just walk off the beach with his girl and straight into a stadium. Now thats efficient resting. The NFL needs to start an AverageBowl for players elected to the Probowl who cant win a playoff game.

Posted by dryw @ 5:19 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Is it really time yet to say that Romo "can't win a playoff game"?? Troy's teams didn't even make it to the playoffs his first two seasons. Romo had a bad break in his first playoff game (a bad handle on a snap does not make him a bad QB, plus the fact that I still think he got the first down and a lousy spot when he ran it after the botch), and the second loss was definitely, as TO pointed out, a team effort. If we haven't won a playoff game in a year or two, then maybe I'll start to wonder. For now I'm giving Tony the benefit of the doubt and a little time to mature.

Posted by Tim Burns @ 5:23 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Of the 4 "major" sports' All-Star games, the NFL Pro Bowl is the biggest fraud. The fact that players still have bonuses tied to a popularity contest is robbery. That said, since it is a flawed selection system and there are no quantitative "marks" that players must hit to qualify, T-Mac or anybody else saying who should or shouldn't go is a self-indulgent exercise. But I'll play along.
From the list, the only one I would agree with is Roy. Although as I've pointed out here before, #31 statistically had a similar season to the AFC DPOY, Indy safety Bob Sanders. I'm not saying Williams is as good as Sanders, as that's nowhere close to true. But I will say that the difference between hero and goat isn't that great.
On the OL, it seems you're problem is more with sending 3 Cowboys. So 2 is just right, 3 is too many and Gurode is out. If this is how you want to whittle the number down, so be it.
Barber? Your choice of Grant over Barber is splitting hairs. Grant was the 2nd best back in football over the second half of the year. True. But here's where Dallas having so many fans willing to stuff an electronic ballot box comes into play. The guy you feel for is Portis, who any thinking fan would vote in, but relying on fans to think before they vote is part of what makes the system flawed.
Having 12 Dallas players going to Hawaii is a reminder of how many really bad teams there were in '07. The NFC South was a joke. The Rams and Niners weren't full of obvious choices for the Pro Bowl, agreed? The Lions and Cardinals underachieved as usual. Dallas padded their stats, win column and possibly Pro Bowl voting by playing against the worst teams in football and teams that are obviously rebuilding. You can only play who's on your schedule, but when that includes Miami, NYJ, St. Louis and the slumping Panthers and Lions, you're gonna look pretty good by comparison.
The '92 SB team had the best defense in the league and no Pro Bowlers from that side of the ball. Shell-shocked fans in '07 take no pride in Dallas sending so many to a February luau. We'd trade all of the Pro Bowl selections to still be playing and the players feel the same way. Ask 'em. But by singling out guys who in your opinion are undeserving is just another kick in the crotch. Why would we expect anything better from you?

Posted by dryw @ 5:28 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Ok, so maybe we didn't deserve 12. But even with the cuts, 7 (or 8 if you include Barber, which I would also do given his accomplishments in limited playing time) is not too embarrassing! (What's embarassing is the way that a team with AT LEAST 7 pro-bowl-worthy players fell apart against the Gnats...)

Posted by Mike @ 6:04 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

GETCHA POPCORN READY !!! the only Cowgirls I would want on my team (the one that beat your team) is DeMarcus Ware and Jason Witten,,, you can keep the rest, and continue this slide into playoff oblivion,,, GO G-MEN !!!!!!!!!

Posted by Duh @ 6:10 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

The NFL clearly consists of two seasons; the Cowboys were the best in the NFC during the regular season, and they reaped the rewards. Despite what all the chicken littles in the blogosphere want to say, to the victor go the spoils...and that includes the NFL's first season.

Posted by MWM @ 6:46 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Just wanting to get information here but I do not see a forum to use so I will use this one. I was on another website last night and in the message board they were saying that the NFL has admitted making a mistake on the intentional grounding they called on Romo. I look back at the tape and even Aikman was making some mention that it was not grounding as he was not under pressure and was getting rid of it to move on to next play. The rule does state that if a QB is not under pressure that he can throw it away without the risk of intentional grounding as is the same rule with spiking the ball. If this is the case, why would the head ref not know this as he is right by the QB and can tell if he is under pressure and I noticed on the film that he was not under any pressure. Anyone else heard this.

Posted by Jerry @ 6:57 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Mike go F#ck yourself, I wouldn't want anyone of your sorry a$$ team

Posted by Jeff @ 6:58 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Typical for the DMN Equirer. The fact is that these guys are all Pro-bowl players and are going to Hawaii. 6 weeks ago you were all telling us how this is the best team in the world and how they are bound for glory and this is the greatest bunch of guys to ever play in the history of Dallas, yadda yadda yadda. Well, I was there in the 1960's when Leroy knocked Timmy Brown's teeth out. Cotton Bowl. I think I probably have a little more history of watching this team than these journalism school grads. This team was average, at best, with some outstanding individuals. Individual players' excellence does not translate to wins in the post-season. Team play does. They have to learn to play as a unit before the big show. Put that in your birdcage and poop on it.

Posted by Tim Burns @ 6:59 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

MWM,

Yeah, I heard the same thing yesterday. The NFL responded to the complaint and admitted no flag should have been thrown.

Posted by whatever @ 7:00 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

The NFL will also issue an apology for the bogus offsides call on Ware, which came on 3rd down on the Giants' first TD drive. Big deal, doesn't matter now.

Posted by Flip Wilson @ 7:04 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

McMahon, Bigby and Gibril Wilson were regularly made into burnt toast throughout the season. Try watching the games sometimes.

Posted by RAMS FAN @ 7:43 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

DISGUSTING, AWFUL, PITIFUL, AND PATHETIC. THATS JUST YOU FANS. TO HELL WITH YOUR TEAM. THAY AINT WORTH A FLIP.

RAMS RULE!

Posted by Sassy Lassie @ 8:15 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

With the NFL screwing up can we postpone the Superbowl and replay the Giants? I think we'd win this time!

Posted by larry giusti @ 8:48 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

dryw, I am really amazed at you Romosexuals. Of all the legitimate arguements you guys could make for your boy, there is a growing caucaphony of, "Oh,yeah? Well, Aikman didn't win any playoff games his first 2 years either". Lookit, you guys obviously never SAW any of the games in 1989 and 1990, which just proves another point of mine, that most of you on this here Blog are under the age of 17. 1989, was Troy's and Jimmy Johnson's first year. The 2 years prior, Tom Landry had gone 3-13. When Jimmy got there, he was shocked at the lack of team speed and general overall lack of talent. He did the only thing he could do. He blew the team up. He got rid of just about everybody that was on the team the prior 2 years, and, after about the 4th game, he then traded the best player he inherited from Landry, Herschel Walker, in the now famous trade to the Vikings. This left Jimmy with a team of his draft picks, trades, and free agents off the streets. Jimmy Johnson said that this team couldn't beat the Miami Hurricane team he just left, or any other Division I College Football team. And if you can't wrap your little minds of mush around that, maybe you can understand this. Remember when you were around, oh, 10-12 yrs. old, and Bill Parcells took over the Cowboys, remember those 5-11 teams he inherited? Those teams, if they could have played the 1989 and 1990 Cowboys 16 times, they would have won at least 15 of those games. Point being, my little mushers, is Troy Aikman had virtually NOTHING to work with, NOTHING! Romo, on the other hand, had a team that was loaded with talent, as evidenced by 11 of his teammates, along with himself, making the Pro Bowl. Not to mention the fact that this year he had a team that made the playoffs last year! And now we're hearing from you guys that, "Well, this is Romo's first year". No it's not. This is his 5th year. Or this one: "Well, this is his first full season as a starter". So, starting 10 games last year, then starting the playoff game in Seattle means nothing? Stop it! Just Stop It! If you guys want to bring some intelligent arguements to back up your boy, then bring it. Just don't regurgitate these ridiculous ideas you get from Mickey "Spags" Spagnola. Use your little minds of mush and think of your own individual creative ideas to prop up your boy, Romo.

Posted by Scott @ 8:58 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

I'd say the analysis of who should and should not be going is pretty accurate although I'm inclined to leave Newman on and take Folk off (one big FG against Buffalo doesn't seem like enough to lift him to Pro Bowl level). However, the one player I think really deserves to be on the list who isn't is Greg Ellis.

Posted by Giusti is an idiot @ 9:00 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

"Growing cacophony"? Since when is one idiot a "growing cacophony", Larry?

Posted by Monte @ 9:07 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

What does Pro Bowling have to do with football? Oh, wait...never mind.

This is one reason why I don't like "voting" for something like this and it being determined before a season is over. You don't know what that player's production is going to be like.

Performance should possibly used as an eligibility requirement, and the voting shouldn't start until around game 12 of the regular season.

I really think that this should be a more "performance-based" selection. Yes, the Pro Bowl is held after the Super Bowl, but it doesn't make sense to announce winners before the season is over, simply because a player's performance may falter after the selection is made.

Posted by larry giusti @ 9:11 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Watching ESPN'S "First Take", 9:09 am, they just announced that Tony Sparano IS the new head coach of the Miami Dolphins.

Posted by larry giusti @ 9:17 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Giusti is an idiot, obviously, you don't read many threads on this here Blog, because if you did, you would read Many of these idiots all saying the same thing. Nice to hear from you, "Spags".

Posted by DatMel @ 9:31 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

So the great Tony Romo wasn't under any pressure playing against a depleted secondary and he threw the ball into the stands? Wouldn't that concern you more than the call/noncall? Why would he do that with the clock running down?

Posted by larry giusti @ 9:39 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

This just in: ESPN is reporting that Norv Turner has told Phillip Rivers to shut his mouth and stop jawing with the fans. Also, Igor Olshansky, Defensive Tackle for the Chargers, has been doing his best Patrick "Big Mouth" Crayton impersonation, trash talking the Patriots. Norv said he was "not pleased" with Igor's statements, and that the issue has been "addressed" with Igor. Gee, imagine that. A head coach, ACTING like a head coach! BRILLIANT!!!

Posted by Tod @ 9:40 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Larry Guisti - Romo was 2nd in the NFL in TDs, 3rd in yards, and 2nd in the very important yards per attempt stat. Brady beat him in all 3 categories, Brees beat him in yards.

I'd like to see your "intelligent" argument for debunking all these stats simply because Romo has good receivers. Carson Palmer has great receivers too, and Romo significantly outplayed him this year.

He didn't play his best game on Sunday, but he is FAR from the reason the Cowboys lost. The reason for the "it's only been 2 seasons" argument? Because it's true. Romo has lost 2 playoff games, one of which was on the road. If you consider that sample size the end-all, be-all, well I can't help you.

Posted by MWM @ 9:41 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

DatMel, would you rather him throw it into coverage when no one is open. You do it to live for another down and was told to do so. Why force something that is not there. Apparently you no nothing when it comes to this area of the game.

Posted by J.R. @ 9:47 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Back to the subject on this article. Didn't this happen to the San Diego Chargers last year? Had all the talent, but did not advance to the next round?

Posted by Danni @ 9:52 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

How one game changes things...

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/2007/12/more_pro_bowlers_than_points.html

Posted by I'm fed up @ 10:07 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

If memory serves, the 1992 Houston Oiler team that blew the 35-3 lead at Buffalo had a then-record number of pro bowlers. Lot of good it did them.

That's right, we're now being mentioned in the same breath as the biggest chokers of all time. Thanks, Jerry. Thanks, Wade. Thanks, Tonessica.

Posted by Jason @ 10:13 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

This is getting ridiculous. If Patrick Crayton catches the damn ball on either throw you Romo haters would be riding his jock. Enough.

The sample size is too small to make any intelligent call on Romo. Everything suggests he's developing into a great NFL QB. He's played 26 games and has had one full season under his belt. Yes, he has more talent than Aikman did in '89 and '90 and Tony led the team to the playoff both years he's played. Isn't it a bit early to slap him as the next Manning or Elway who couldn't win the big game, until of course they did. Just back off the guy. Our defense gave up 21 points at home. They let the Giants drive down the field in 47 seconds to score a TD. If you want to blame anyone: how about the coaches? Many seem to have had personal agendas on their minds rather than getting their respective players prepared.

Posted by U Suck @ 10:28 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

None of your posts or Alberts posts seem right either...

Posted by Tim Burns @ 10:28 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

larry giusti,

I notice that you're even more belligerent and disagreeable than usual the last couple of days. Are you ok? Chasing the "17 year olds" off of "our" little blog-lawn again, huh? Very nice...

"Romosexuals"? "Minds of mush"? "Idiots"? Isn't it a little below you to resort to the name-calling and belittling of other people who want to post here. Leave that to the professionals. I saw where you've been chasing me around the topics again, leaving your trail of slime and spewing your bile at anyone stupid enough to listen. Save your freak-ing breath. You can't leave a comment without bringing up vox or myself or someone else that doesn't kneel to the great larry and agree with your b.s...Well, I've got an idea. If you want to debate me again, pick a topic. The next time you think about using my name again in one of your inane tirades, please, give it a rest. I'm hardly as "famous" as Saint Jimmy and I don't need the pub...Just because you got a new Cowboys DVD for Christmas and can repeat it word-for-word doesn't make you the authority on all-things Valley ranch.
Take your tired-a88ed, Randy Galloway-wannabe, bitter, irritating, ADD, ADHD-addled opinions and go play in traffic!

What was the topic, again?

Posted by J.L. @ 10:36 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

I'm pretty sure I've seen plenty of blame being placed on the coaches. The fact of the matter is that everyone is to blame, but it always comes back to the head coach and QB. Whether you're talking praise or blame, it always comes back to those 2, deserved or not.

The defense? The Giants had 57 YARDS of offense in the second half. Those last 2 drives when the Giants went 3-and-out were absolutely huge, giving the Cowboys the ball around midfield both times. But, Garrett and Sporano's offense couldn't manage to cover the 45 or 50 yards to the endzone. Makes sense that everyone's clamoring to hire them.

Posted by larry giusti @ 10:36 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Tod, the "this is only Romo's 2nd year" argument is just not true. This is his 5th year in the NFL. Sorry, look it up. You guys comparing him to Aikman's first two years is ridiculous. Aikman was a ROOKIE when he got his first start, Romo was in his FOURTH year when he got his first start. So, what, those first three years meant NOTHING to Romo's development? Also, compare the talent of the first two years of starts for Aikman and Romo. Romo had a LOT more talent to work with. If Romo would have been a rookie starting QB on the Cowboys team of 1989, he would have been killed. He would have done a T.O. and cried and left football, sucking his thumb and crying to Jessica. And you Romosexuals use of stats. You sound just like "Coach Excuse". Stats are for losers. Here's a stat for you, Tod. "0-2", "0-2", "0-2". So, just stop it with the Aikman comparisons. Aikman won MULTIPLE playoff games and THREE SUPER BOWLS!! What is it you clowns are allways telling fans from other teams when they come on this Blog? Oh yeah, "come back here when you've won 5 Super Bowls". So, come back here telling me how great Romo is AFTER he has won 3 Super Bowls.

Posted by larry giusti @ 10:42 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Tim Burns, "13-4", "13-4", "0-4", "0-4", "0-2", "0-2", "0-2"!!!

Posted by teddy @ 11:04 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

It does not matter how many real pro bowlers are on the team. Football is a team sport. You must play as a team. When New England won 3 super bowls in 4 years, there were not so many stars on that team. Tom Brady will go to hall of fame. But no other players from that team were lock to hall of fame. Their team was playing together. This season, when they got three good wide receivers (all obtained through trades with middle to late round of picks!), that offense is unstopable.

So even if you have a team with probowler at every position, if they do not play as a team, they will lose.

This season, the Dallas team gave too much attention to individual achievements including the probowler.

Posted by Vox Veritas @ 11:12 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Giusti, you sure talk a lot of crap NOW, but everybody knows that you were nowhere to be found for months when the Cowboys were winning. You're nothing but a back-biting hater. If I could buy you for what you know and sell you for what you think you know, I could retire a millionaire. Now go pi$$ up a rope with the rest of the Moore-ons, cheerboy. Have a nice day!

Posted by Tod @ 11:23 AM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Did I ever say Romo is better than Aikman? Who cares about that comparison. That makes for a good bar argument but it's pointless to the development of the Cowboys. Especially before Romo's career is even close to over.

I know it's his 5th year in the NFL. But it's hard to win playoff games when you aren't playing. Very hard. To ignore a QB's skills simply because of how the TEAM (yes, shockingly, football is a team sport) plays in 2 games is stupid. Mindnumbingly stupid. Peyton Manning didn't win any playoff games this year either. Think the Colts should trade him for Philip Rivers? Or Billy Volek?

Romo is one of the top QBs in the league. Exactly where? Too early to tell. But to focus on him as the problem doesn't make any sense. Good thing the actual team (hopefully) knows they have real things to address.

Posted by JJGM (Not!) @ 12:18 PM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Jerry Jones is a pimp.

Cowboys talent is either over-rated or under achieving.

Back to the toilet with Jerrah and his cast of inbreds in charge.

Posted by Richard Head @ 12:56 PM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Romo showed what he can do under a little pressure. Basically, wind up and toss it. Not sure if his eyes were closed or not... Bottom line, if his OL was not so good, he would be an average QB. That may hold true for others also, but must be realized...

Posted by larry giusti @ 1:01 PM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Vox, this just in: Matt Moore STILL has as many playoff victories as Romo!!! "0-2","0-2", "0-2"!!!

Posted by larry giusti @ 1:35 PM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Tod, "But to focus on him(Romo) as the problem doesn't make any sense". If you'd look at my original post, I didn't say that Romo was the only problem,(although he IS a problem), I was talking about you Romosexuals comparing Romo to Aikman. Many of you on here talk about Danny White as the biggest "choke" the Cowboys have ever had at QB. At least Danny won some playoff games, and took us to 3 NFC Championship games in a row. Romo hasn't won ONE playoff game yet, so who is the bigger "choke"? You guys love to trot out stats to "prove" your point, so here's a stat for you. The teams who were the #1 seed going into the divisional round playoff game WERE 17-0 in that game, now the record shows 17-1, thanks to Romo and the 'Boys. The last time the Cowboys were 13-3 in the regular season(which by the way Aikman was the QB of that team), they won the Super Bowl. So, you tell me. Why do you think Romo is so great? Because he can put up some stats, IN THE REGULAR SEASON, because he wins games, IN THE REGULAR SEASON? I judge my QB's by what they do in the postseason. See, 13-3 don't mean shid to me, if you lose in the first playoff game.

Posted by Jim @ 2:10 PM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Hey Larry,

Peyton Manning was 0-3 in his 1st three playoff games.

Do you think Peyton is a good QB?

If so, shouldn't that mean that Romo still has a shot to become a good QB?

Oh, by the way, Peyton had a lot of talent around him (just like Romo) in all 3 of those playoff losses.

Posted by TonyZ @ 3:02 PM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Jason,

Crayton did not catch the ball because of bad luck but bad focus or lack of focus which is the pitfall of all trash-talking I-oriented football players.

Also, I believe Brady won a Superbowl in his second season, starting 13 games that year, none his first.

Posted by tom @ 6:02 PM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

i hate to tell you but the cowboys are not america's team. long before dallas had a team, it was an still is the Greenbay Packers, and always will be.

Posted by Tim Burns needs a job @ 6:28 PM Wed, Jan 16, 2008

Tim,

This just in - GET A LIFE

ALSO - Romo was in top 2-3 in interceptions

Posted by Stan @ 10:31 PM Thu, Jan 17, 2008

Did anyone miss the play where Fasano dropped a sure touchdown pass at the goal line which would have resulted in a 21-14 lead? If I'm not mistaken it went through his outstretched arms and bounced off his chest.

Had big mouth Patrick caught the pass from Romo while he scrambled, avoiding 2 defenders, that too would have possibly resulted in a score and kept the ball away from NY and resulted in a 28-14 lead or at the very least 24-14 with at least a field goal. Ironically, they might have won again by 10 points and we would all be getting ready to host GB. Grow up folks, we lost not because of Romo (or Jessica for that matter), but because of a couple of plays that could have broken the backs of NY.

Posted by Tony Gutierrez @ 9:19 PM Sat, Jan 19, 2008

The Cowboys that are going to the Pro Bowl do not deserve to go....BUT it's just a payback for a mistake that was made in 1992 because Dallas had the #1 defense and NOT one DEF player went. SO what goes around, comes around....

Posted by John Doss @ 1:59 PM Tue, Jan 29, 2008

Ellis makes 13

Hurray America's Team