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For the second time in as many days, ESPN's Chris Mortensen has said that Cowboys owner/GM is hot after Arkansas RB Darren McFadden. He said it on ESPN Radio's GameDay yesterday, and again on NFL Countdown moments ago. And apparently he has a prospective trading partner in the Dolphins, who have former Valley Ranchers Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland in charge. Most people have McFadden going in the top five. Timmy Tabloid already addressed what it would take to get to No. 1, which I'd agree is far too steep a price to pay. In fact, I really wouldn't go after McFadden, period. But if you want to know, the draft value chart employed by most teams shows that the assigned point total the two picks (22 and 28) the Cowboys have add to 1,440. That total, according to the chart, lands between the seventh (1,500) and eighth (1,400) overall picks. The Patriots, picking seventh overall, could be a viable trading partner, given that they traditionally don't like paying the up-front money that Top 10 picks command and consider late first-rounders of higher value. Still, that probably won't get you McFadden. To get in to the top five, it'll likely take both picks and, at least, another mid-round selection. Or, as Mort reported, Marion Barber could be thrown in the pot. All in all, I say don't do it. I say use both those picks, and fill the few holes that are left in a well-built roster. Get a corner, get a receiver. Just don't lust after McFadden. Maybe he'll be a great player. I don't think that's any sure thing at all. And given the circumstances, and what you'd be giving up, I think there's little chance he'd be a great value. |
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Posted by Rpowell @ 11:19 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
How in the world could you give up Barber? I am a life long Cowboys fan and I have to say he is one of my favorite players. I love his overachieving effort. He reminds me of Bill Bates in some ways. He brings it all on every play. He may not have the physical tools of McFadden but he gives it his all and is very very productive.
Posted by RP @ 11:21 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
We can not set our franchise back a couple of years going after one guy (remember the Joey Galloway trade?). Jerry must be losing his mind. I would much rather stay with our picks and hope Felix Jones falls into our laps. If not, there are plenty of other guys who would complement MB3 just fine.
DON'T DO IT JERRY!!!!!!!
Posted by Jerry Jonez @ 11:21 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
"In fact, I really wouldn't go after McFadden, period."
Quoted from your blog post..... Why would you ?
I have yet to hear that he is a great typist or that he is up to speed on Cowboys history.
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 11:26 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
I sure hope that the "system" they have in place for the draft will veto this nonsense. The team has too many other issues to give up practically an entire draft for one guy. Does McFadden get you to the SB next year? Hell no. We need CBs and WRs and THEN we need a RB... a scat-back type to complement Barber.
Posted by mwm @ 11:28 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Disagree. The Cowboys could give the Fins their
two firsts plus Ferguson, Carpenter and Spears.
Posted by Habib @ 11:31 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Jerry if you can pull this off then do it.
This reminds of Cowboys getting TD from Seagulls.
Posted by Chris @ 11:39 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
That's a good point mwm. Since D-Mac is projected
to go at #5 they could trade back down a couple of
spots, get D-Mac and another pick back.
Posted by JJGM (Not!) @ 11:41 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Between, DMac, Keith Davis, TO, Tank Johnson and soon to be signed Pacman Jones we will have the All Trouble Team in the NFL. Is this a scheme to finally give Grant Hill a job in Valley Ranch minding the pampered athlete?
Once again this proves Jerry is an idiot GM. Not only is he ignoring the draft to fix a fiew issues but mortgaging it for a player who is not even as good as his teammate.
Jerry does not believe in good management, team work and systems but in signing high profile players with talent ..... the Anti -Patriots.
To all the idiot liker of Jerrah, look at how well the Giants are doing without Shockey and Tiki and a calmed down Head Coach?
Jerry Jones is the dumbest football man in America... by far. Jerrah!! Still waiting for Bledsoe to come back as you wished for last year?
Can't wait for Parcells to fleece the imbecile and leave Jerrah with a $65MM Tailback.
Posted by KY @ 11:43 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
ESPN was reporting the Dolphins would only do this deal if Barber was included. If that's the case, DON'T DO IT.
Posted by rokay @ 11:45 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Lifelong Dallas fan and here is my advise to Mr. Jones. DON'T DO IT! There is NO WAY on earth Jerry should pull the trigger on this deal. NONE. There are three people on the team that should not be part of any trade:
1. Romo
2. Ware
3. Barber
Remember Penn State's Ki-Jana Carter? Or the Herschel Walker deal? Let's not do what Minnesota did... Besides, this draft is full of very good backs. Use one of the picks to pick up another one. We need a solid corner and another receiver. Running back is not one of our primary needs.
Posted by gary @ 11:54 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
I wouldnt trade both 1st picks,let alone include MB3. Too many other needs. CB, WR, RB. I am probably looking at trading down from #22 to get extra picks in round 2 or 3 in '08 draft.
Posted by dobson @ 11:57 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
His shot at D-mac dissappeared when the Browns played so well this year. Wouldn't mind him trying to get another high first rounder in the 09 draft by using one of the 08's as bait for a #1 in 09 from somebody though.
Posted by Bevo @ 11:57 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Plenty of good backs that can compliement Barber very nicely -- Felix Jones and Jamaal Charles come to mind. We are in a nice position with two 1st Rounders and we shouldn't use them all for a back that will be a part-timer at best behind Barber.
Posted by kEN rOWE @ 11:58 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Remember one thing Baber was coming off the bench and was effective the whole season. With his type of running Barber will never last the whole season. I agree dont go after Dmac. I would love to see Roy WIlliams on the other side of TO. Dealing with Millen is alot easier then Parcells
Posted by Voice of Reason @ 11:59 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Oh Silly little worry warts... Barber is a solid back and I love his heart but he will never be an explosive weapon. Can you imagine dumping the ball to Dmac when everyone is covered??? Scary! Plus Barber is due a huge contract and isnt worth what we might have to pay him. DMAC is a Gamebreaker and in JG's offense he will be a monster!
Posted by Chris @ 12:06 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Barber MUST stay. In today's NFL a 2 back system is the best way to go. A major injury is only 1 play away. D-Mac would be nice, but the cost my be too high. Felix Jones would be a better option, and he can return kicks.
Posted by Kay @ 12:06 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Even Jerry can't be stupid enough to consider this. Does he think that Miami would be doing him a favor? They simply realized that he is the dope ripe for the picking. On the bright side, Jerry's going on 66...he can't do this forever, right? Bring in Steven Jones.
Posted by heavenbound @ 12:06 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
we all have different opinions about the boys when the truth of the matter is, Jerry's gonna do whatever he wants...if he gives up multiple picks to get D-Mac, we all will be sitting there on opening day, and the first time D-Mac rips off a 60 yarder, we all will he highfiving and hollering, and we will forget about who should've stayed or who we should've drafted...point blank unless you're not a true fan...fans across the NFL all want different things or players and it never happens because we don't draft or evaluate..we only root for our team...
Posted by Cleve @ 12:13 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Granted, McFadden is a very good running back, and he would be extremely useful for the Cowboys if he were on the team. But in order to move up as far as the Cowboys would have to in order to draft him would obviously not be in the best of interests for the present or future of the Cowboys. He's only one player and with the two first round draft picks that the Cowboys have, Jerry could parlay those draft picks into three exceptional players who would be far more productive than McFadden alone could ever be.
The Cowboys have two or three players they could do without also, but instead of using them in conjunction with the two first round draft picks to move up and pick one player, Jerry could get much more bang for his bucks if they were traded for additional draft picks to teams that need immediate help in the positions where those players could start.
Jerry could get the immediate help needed for the secondary in free agency (I personally like Samuels and Trufant, but there are obviously a couple of other good CBs also available). With careful evaluation and selection, Jerry could conceivably end up with two or three relatively high second round picks in addition to the two first round picks. I personally believe that Felix Jones is a faster and more elusive back, who would be an even better fit in the Cowboys system than McFadden anyway.
Jerry has an opportunity this year to fill each and ever hole, or deficiency, in the Cowboys, if he just plays his cards right. With the draft choices and potential trades, the Cowboys could be the best team in the NFL in September. One running back won't make that kind of difference in the overall improvement of the team, even if he were Peterson, which McFadden isn't. He's good, but he's not that good!
Posted by Lay off Jerry @ 12:15 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
THIS IS ALL JUST SENSATIONALISM BY THE PRESS.
ANY CHANCE OF MCFADDEN WENT BY THE BOARD WHEN CLEVELAND HAD A WINNING SEASON AND JERRY KNOWS THAT.
JUST GIVE THE IDIOT JJGM(NOT) ANOTHER CHANCE TO RAG ON JJ.
IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN AND JERRY IS ALREADY ON TO MORE REALISTIC POSSIBILITIES. WOULD NOT BE AT ALL SURPRISED IF HE TRADES UP OR DOWN, AND OF COURSE HE WILL KEEP AN EYE ON MCFADDEN ON DRAFT DAY, BUT MCFADDEN IS A DEAD ISSUE UNLESS THE GUY FALLS UNEXPECTEDLY IN THE FIRST ROUND. JERRY AINT GONNA GIVE UP BARBER. THATS JUST STUPID SPECULATION.
JJGM(NOT), YOUR FAVORITE PASTTIME IN LIFE IS BASHING JERRY FOR WHAT HE DOES, AS A MATTER OF FACT, FOR DANG NEAR EVERYTHING HE DOES. IF YOU WANT TO BE EVEN 1% OBJECTIVE, WHICH WOULD BE A NICE CHANGE FOR YOU, AT LEAST DON'T BASH HIM JUST FOR SOMETHING SOME REPORTER THINKS HE IS GONNA DO. IF HE TRADED TWO #1'S AND BARBER I WOULD BE RIGHT THERE WITH YOU, BUT IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN.
Posted by cboysporvida @ 12:19 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
He is not THE player the 'Boys need, they have other postions to address and I really, really hope that they in no way consider trading both of their first round picks with the Patsies. Grand they are cheaters, you don't give 'em more ammo to young up their defense.
Posted by cboysporvida @ 12:21 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
He is not THE player the 'Boys need, they have other postions to address and I really, really hope that they in no way consider trading both of their first round picks with the Patsies. Grand they are cheaters, you don't give 'em more ammo to young up their defense.
Posted by paul @ 12:29 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Come on JJ...stand pat...dont show your hand...
22 and 28 can get us 2 nice players...
cb, wr in 1st rd...
rb in 2nd rd.
cb, wr-many out there to choose from.
rb-if f jones is there at 28 take him
After watching Ark. play these past few years, I truly think F Jones can do very well...
Posted by Greybeard @ 12:29 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
You can only hope that Jones is throwing up an early smoke screen, that's all I can say. If he actually goes ahead and does this, it's worse than the Joey Galloway trade. I personally don't want McFadden. He was part of a gadgety two back system where plenty of times you didn't know where the ball was going. Unless we're planning on introducing the Hog Wild formation to our offense, that takes away part of his effectiveness.
If he's thinking this because he's an Arkansas alum and he's heard whispers of McFadden being the next Adrian Peterson, he needs to put earplugs in. Does anyone remember when he picked Carter, thinking he could be the next McNabb?
If Jerry does this, then it's almost a certainty that this franchise will be spinning its wheels until he steps down and Stephen takes over and lets a real football guy take over, not a self-proclaimed one. Playing football 40+ years ago and owning a team does not make you a GM.
Posted by RP @ 12:38 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
IF Miami does trade its 1st rounder, they will have a ton of picks in the first day of the draft. They'll go 8-8 with all the rook's and Parcells and Sparano will be thought of as GOD around South Beach.
Posted by Pat V @ 12:54 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Don't take a RB in the first round - certainly not at #1. Injury can kill our draft and the likelihood of that happening to a RB is high. If McFadden wasn't from ARK, would Jones even be considering this? Tuna has already decimated our coaching staff; he would have a REALLY big laugh if Jones goes for the Fins' #1 pick.
Posted by BOYS @ 12:54 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Peterson made a huge difference in Minn. But I have to agree about keeping Barber - you have to keep him. McFadden would be a great Boy - I hope there is a way to get him without giving up the farm. I'm still sick that the Boys aren't playing next week. Eli is the SB - absolutely crazy. Rolle, Trufant would be perfect for Henry - who would be nickel or in Williams place in dime situations
Posted by Stefen @ 12:54 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
i'm not exactly sure how Restricted Free Agengy works, but say we let barber leave and we tender him the 1st and 3rd rounder compensation. If we trade for Dmac with 2 1sts, a 3rd, and say a player to be named... that still leaves us with a full bevy of picks in all of the rounds WITH Dmac. sorry, but I would take that in a heartbeat. and whoever says Dmac won't be great in the NFL obviously doesn't watch SEC Football.
That my friends, would be a glorious draft.
but this is the only way i would try to get him mind you. :)
oh and then after, trade that 2nd rounder for Roy Williams.
game over.
Posted by JC @ 12:57 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Chasing D-Mac is a bad, bad move. The core to make a run for the next 3-4 years is already here. It is obvious what needs to be. Resign Flozell Adams and Ken Hamlin. Lock up Chris Canty and MB3 to long term deals. In the draft, get a WR and a CB with the two first round picks. WR choices - Manningham, Kelly, or Sweed. CB choices - Talib, McKelvin, Rogers-Cromartie. Complementary RB in the 2nd round. Jamaal Charles, Chris Johnson (ECU), or Justin Forsett (Cal). In the 3rd round, I would suggest a developmental safety who can start in 2009. Ken Hamlin can move to SS after Roy Williams get cut. Round 4 to 7 should be focused on getting OL/DL depth and guys that can play special teams.
Posted by Miami Man @ 12:59 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
As a Dolphin fan, I'd love to move down. I wouldn't expect us to get the 3000 points back from the #1 overall pick & that's ok with me. But we would need more than #22 & #28. Players you no longer want because they've disappointed you so far aren't really going to move the needle very much. Barber would, though. :)
Rumors are strong that a deal or "understanding" is already in place. If true, we'll have to wait & see just what that entails. I know this, BP talks about keeping Jason Taylor, but Taylor wants to go out on a winner and he would have made the difference in your loss to the Giants. Don't let his stats this year fool you, he wasn't used the same way as under Saban when he was defensive player of the year. Just a hunch he could be involved to take some of the sting out of giving up #22 & #28.
Regards.
Posted by Mike @ 1:05 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
So because Chris Mortensen reports it, than that makes it the truth?? Let me give you all a piece of advice, you can hope for this or wish for that but it really doesn't matter because no one is listening to what you think. Jerry could care less about how you feel, he is the owner and the end all, he will make whatever decision he wants to make. If you have been a fan of this team for any length of time you would understand Jerry does what Jerry wants to do, period. Either you accept that and deal with it or find yourself another team to root for.
Posted by colorado kool aid @ 1:08 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Amen to that thinking . . . use 1st round picks on CB and WR -- don't put that many chips on a running back.
Posted by Jody @ 1:15 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
I'm not even sure DMac is the best back in the draft, much less worthy of two no.1's. For the Cowboys, someone like Sedrick Ellis would make more sense at that pick than a RB. Whatever happens, do not do another Joey Galloway.
Posted by Bandit @ 1:20 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Jerrah's playing games. He really wants Mendenhall (5'11" 225lbs) never lost a fumble, has break-away speed and if he came back for his senior year he'd be Heishman hopeful. Let's hope he's available.
note: it shoudl read Gotcha not CAPTCHA
Posted by Vegas Cowboy Fan @ 1:22 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
If there is one takeaway from the NFL in 2007 is that productive RB's commonly can be found in later rounds if you build a strong offensive line.
Jerry- Keep investing your money on talented big guys up front and continue plucking middle round RB's like Barber and you will get your 4th ring soon.
Posted by Ty @ 1:32 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
All you $8 an hour jackasses really think your smarter than the billionare whose responsible for more than half of the Super Bowls in Cowboys history? How many other owners have 3 rings?
Posted by paolo @ 1:34 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
I don't see a need for a trade. Give Barber the highest tender and see if BP takes the bait. Jerry can have the upper hand in this one if he's smart. Then deal the 1st pick for more picks. Now, this only works if the Fins go after Barber - not a good scenario if a team picking later wins the Barber sweepstakes. My thought, keep Barber and go after Felix Jones or Mendenhall. Trade away Carpenter and/or Spears to the Lions for R. Williams
Posted by Hap @ 1:39 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Note to Jerry,
IF that's true, you will lose your fans with picks from the heart, not the head. We have a proven RB, we don't need one that'll cost too much to get, that's unproven. And don't let D2(short for Dallas 2,a.k.a.Miami) make you look stupid by trading provens for unprovens.
Posted by Benicio @ 1:40 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Drafting a receiver 1st round . I'm sorry but unless he's something of a Cal Johnson then it's prob. likely
that it'll take him awhile to catch on. With that being said receivers are late rounders for me! MB3 is good but not that take it to the house every down guy.
Just watch Jerry will be aggressive in free agency so that he can likely do what he damn well pleases during the draft , which he'll do anyway, D-MAC is the real deal he tore up LSU for 200 yards not to mention the whole SEC the only reason they had that "wild hog " formation was because he was their whole offense lol DO IT JERRY DO IT !!!!.........GO COWBOYS
Posted by Jim Burns @ 1:56 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Barber is a good back but not great. Will Mcfadden be great I dont know. I would prefer we try to get Felix Jones later in the draft with one of their picks. Trading up for Mcfadden would not be a good trade
Jim Burns
My moms arms
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 1:57 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Let's hope JJ does the following prior to the draft:
1. Trades for WR Roy Williams.
2. Signs a top CB like Samuel or Trufant.
3. Signs another mid-level CB (Drayton Florence).
Then... AFTER that -- go HOG WILD in the draft.
Posted by Gary T. @ 2:01 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Jerry should forget about D-Mac and focus on getting another corner, wide receiver with the first two picks and a running back prospec with the third pick.
Posted by Gary T. @ 2:03 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Jerry should forget about D-Mac and focus on getting another corner, wide receiver with the first two picks and a running back prospec with the third pick.
Posted by Cleve @ 2:05 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
LOL! Real cute, Miami Man. Jerry might not do what I think is best, but, unlike some I wouldn't think for a moment that Jerry's not smart. He didn't get where he is without smarts, and a lot of it! It's his team and I'm sure he'll do whatever he thinks is best. That's what I'd do if I were in his shoes.
It's easy for me to envision a successful scenario for the Cowboys that entails not moving up so far in the draft for McFadden, or any other good player. The Cowboys' needs are several and one player can't solve them all. That does not mean that an alternative scenario would not work, if it includes the use of free agency and/or trades for a good CB and a speedy WR. Moving up for a great RB would certainly work, if the other two glaring needs are also meaningfully addressed. Depth can be address in the third through the seventh rounds.
I wish Jerry the best of luck with whatever scenario he decides to use. Quantifying the most beneficial scenario at this point is largely a matter of opinion and speculation anyway. Only hindsight speaks with authority.
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 2:05 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Also, if Jerry does end up going Hog Wild in the draft (hopefully after pulling in our biggest needs via FA)... I'd much rather him work it thru Crazy Al than fat Bill. McFadden would be available at th 4th pick and it would be slightly less expensive -- plus we wouldn't have to be reading about how BP fleeced the Boys yet again.
Posted by True Cowboy Fan @ 2:05 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Maybe he will be using D-Mac at quarterback!! We all know that the cowboys need one really bad because Romo Sucks!! You so-called cowboy fans called Jerry an idiot when he signed T.O. You hated T.O. and then when he came in and made a huge impact, you so-called fans love him!! Whoever thinks Jerry is an idiot for trying to get D-Mac, you're an idiot for not wanting McFadden. Just like you were idiots for not wanting T.O.!!!
Posted by True Cowboy Fan @ 2:06 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Maybe he will be using D-Mac at quarterback!! We all know that the cowboys need one really bad because Romo Sucks!! You so-called cowboy fans called Jerry an idiot when he signed T.O. You hated T.O. and then when he came in and made a huge impact, you so-called fans love him!! Whoever thinks Jerry is an idiot for trying to get D-Mac, you're an idiot for not wanting McFadden. Just like you were idiots for not wanting T.O.!!!
Posted by JD @ 2:10 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
If Jerry gives up Barber under any circumstances for an unproven rookie, he would solidify his place as an amateur idiotic "GM!"
The fans (the ones who are going to fill that new stadium and buy your concessions and merchandise) would hate him so much. Don't f up a good team. Use the picks on a WR and a running back.
Look at the RB kid in Miami whose career may be over because he tore up his knee. Don't blow the team by investing in a RB that high.
Jimmy, please come back and be the GM!!!
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 2:10 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
I also heard Mort say that Jerry is designing a new side-line headset for HC Wayne: He's gonna take a pipe cleaner; bend it over his head into the form of an upside down horseshoe; stick to jelly doughnuts on each end; and then plug a hot dog frank into the left side doughnut...this is gonna be Wayne's new headset...this will also provide a snack when he gets hungry in the middle of the 1st Q...Garrett will have the "working" headset...HA HA HA...oh, and Jerry will be selling the new Wayne headset at all his bead and trinket stands around Dallas Cowboy Stadium...HA HA HA...Hail to the Redskins!!!...
Posted by Benico @ 2:21 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Ah Forekin_Rules u little simpleton if u hate the Cowboys why do u venture to our sites and pollute the boards with ur garbage. Looks like ur lil Owner Dee Snyder took a page outta Jerry's book and hired an offensive coordinator prior to head coach.
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 2:23 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
...speaking of Kurt Cobain...didn't he and Nicky Sualua used to real good friends...HA HA HA...
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 2:24 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
And are the Redskins really going to hire Jim "Fossil" as their new HC? That would be sweet for us Cowboys fans.
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 2:25 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
oh, and my football take...pass on McFadden...his legs are too skinny to be an every downer...running mate Felix makes more sense for you Cow-Pies...
Posted by heavenbound @ 2:26 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
all you so called draft experts, if Jerry covers all his needs during free agency, then he can do whatever he pleases during the draft...trade the farm if he wants to...Jerry is a smart man, the boys aren't the #1 selling team mechandise wise for nothing...haven't won a playoff game or a superbowl in years and still are #1...so draft experts...keep your thoughts to yourselves...JERRY WILL DO WHATEVER HE PLEASES, AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN FIND ANOTHER TEAM TO ROOT FOR...
Posted by Jerry Jone's lover @ 2:29 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
jerry jones has single-handidly won 3 superbowls for this team (ok idiots, he hired jimmy johnson, so dont even go there) I say its his team and he can do whatever he wants to do. If you moronic dolts dont like it, go buy your own nfl team and screw it up as you wish. JEERY JONES IS DA MAN!
Posted by Foreskins suck @ 2:31 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
"Jim Fossel",,,,ROFLMAO,,, PLease Snyder, do it!
Posted by Redskins_Drool @ 2:32 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Redskins_Rule, Mortenson reported that this is a model being followed by Daniel Snyder, who likes to shove an electric rod up each of his coach's asses so he can shock them each time they make a bad call. He tried putting together an all-star coaching staff by bribing Belichick, Jason Garrett, Dungy, and a few others, but they all told them they don't enjoy getting sodomized up the butt like he does. The ass clown is still trying to sign Jerry Rice.
Posted by BamBam @ 2:33 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
As a long-time jocksniffer, I would like to add my valuable insights.
I don't want the Cowboys to take McFadden or anybody else at #1, nor do I want them to give up Barber.
However, if the Dolphins were to place a trade value on Parcells guys like Carpenter and Spears higher than the rest of the league places on them, it might make sense to do a deal. Jerry could trade up to #1 (or slightly lower should the Dolphins do a preliminary deal), then use that higher pick as a platform to trade back down. Same goes if the Dolphins gave Jerry some under the table "credits" for letting go of the scouts and coaches.
Do a deal with Bill, maximizing your draft points, then trade around to get multiple picks.
Posted by mw @ 2:35 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Trading up to get McFadden smacks of desperation. This team has a few holes, but possesssing multiple late first rounders provides the ideal opportunity to fill them.
DONT DO IT JERRY!
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 2:38 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
I use doughnuts...and the retorts go to the lowest denominators...typical Cow-Pie Knuckledragger fan...
Posted by Benicio @ 3:03 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Damn ur still here how many flushes will it take for you to go away
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 3:06 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
if you guys keep saying bad things about me and continue being mean to me, I'll be forced to post some long-winded farewell; blame the site for the way I've been treated; and then continue to blog under one of my many names...HA HA HA...Hail to the Redskins!!!...
Posted by JDA @ 3:07 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
god knows the Boys need help on the defense, particularly in the secondary.
if they are going to trade for or sign a premier player for one of those spots then that shows they have no idea of where their weaknesses are on this team.
Posted by JDA @ 3:08 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
god knows the Boys need help on the defense, particularly in the secondary.
if they are not going to trade for or sign a premier player for one of those spots then that shows they have no idea of where their weaknesses are on this team.
Posted by ice @ 3:09 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
ditto bambam, but if the fins are stupid enough to lose a #1 and #3 you gotta take it, then trade down and gather more picks. the most impact should come in free agency, sign trufant or samuel, maybe work out a trade for carpenter and spears for roy williams, the pick a cb( mckelvin, talib or cromartie) an rb ( f jones or s slaton)inrnd 2 get another wr maybe bowman, in rnd 3 owen schmitt to pave the way
Posted by RP @ 3:09 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Where is that idiot RAMSFAN?
Posted by ice @ 3:09 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
ditto bambam, but if the fins are stupid enough to lose a #1 and #3 you gotta take it, then trade down and gather more picks. the most impact should come in free agency, sign trufant or samuel, maybe work out a trade for carpenter and spears for roy williams, the pick a cb( mckelvin, talib or cromartie) an rb ( f jones or s slaton)inrnd 2 get another wr maybe bowman, in rnd 3 owen schmitt to pave the way
Posted by cboysporvida @ 3:22 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
We need a CB & WR...and a back-up RB, not a starting one.
please jerry, don't do it.
Posted by cboysporvida @ 3:22 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
We need a CB & WR...and a back-up RB, not a starting one.
please jerry, don't do it.
Posted by RAMS FAN @ 3:33 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
I'LL WILL TELL YOU WERE RAMS FAN IS, HE IS READING ABOUT THE SUPERB WORK OUT CONDITIONG THE RAMS ARE HAVING IN THE OFF SEASON. THEY ARE THE ODDS ON FAVORITE TO WIN ALL OF EVERTHING NEXT YEAR. I TOLD YOU BEFORE AND I WILL TELL YOU AGAIN, THE RAMS WONT NEVER DO WHAT THEY DID THIS YEAR. ALL BECAUSE STEVEN JACKSON WAS HURT IS WHY THEY DIDNT GO TO THE SUPERBOWL, THAT IS THE ONLY WHY TRHEY DIDNT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS? I WILL TELL WHAT THIS MEANS, IT MEAN S SCOREBOARD RAMS!
Posted by brian maxx @ 3:35 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
"Jerry does what Jerry wants to do."
Dang straight. And I've been happy with everything he's done, even if you wind up regretting it in the end (Galloway, passing on Moss). He's like a dad. He owns the Cowboys. He is who he is and he more than doubled Dallas' Super Bowl trophies under his watch and on his dime!! It is exciting football. People complaining about Jerry should look no further than the Eagles, Giants, Atlanta, Detroit, Oakland, or some 27 or 28 NFL franchises). Most of the others are pretty much boring.
I like wheelin' and dealin' and Jerry is just right for my favorite team.
Go Jerry. Roll the dice.
Posted by Dave @ 3:39 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Dear Mr. Jones,
I dont even care to read what anyone else or these analysts have to say, please don't listen to them and GET D-MAC. He is the most electrifying player to come out of college, especially your alma mater, in forever. I sincerely know that the impact he will have is more more than two late first rounders like bobby carpenter, marcus spears, and a 4th or 5th rounder that may or may not even make the team.
Posted by JohnG @ 3:51 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
D-Mac for Roy Williams, Jacques Reeves, Nate Jones, and Julius Jones.
Posted by Boyz Fan in VA @ 4:00 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Who the hell is Chris Mortensen? Haven't we learned by now? ESPN does whatever it has to do to increase viewership and ratings. Honestly, how often is Mortensen or anyone at ESPN right about anything?
Posted by Boyz Fan in VA @ 4:03 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
One more thing... Fellow bloggers, get off of the ridiculous trade scenarios. You guys spend too much of your time playing fantasy football. The stuff you guys throw around is just plain stupid.
Posted by Glenn Guillory @ 4:14 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
No way should Jerry mortage the future to move up into the top five picks for Darren McFadden. Stay put and take Malcomn Kelly and Jamaal Charles with those two first round picks. Two playmakers are better than one. By the way, get your corner in free agency for those who want a corner with one of those first round picks.
Posted by Bill in DC @ 4:20 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Well, I'm kinda torn on this one. I'd love to see him throwing TDs to TO (he has a great arm besides bing able to catch and run) but I'd hate to lose Marion to get him. DMac would make Dallas' O unstoppable, but what we give up to get him could damage us in the long run. Marion will never be a featured back and he will never make D Coordinators stay up nights worrying about him, DMac might.
3rd
Posted by Benicio @ 4:46 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Whoever says trade Julius Jones is clueless. The man is a free agent and is leaving on his own. Quit saying draft a receiver in the first round. They're more successful in later rounds unless they are unbelievable talent like last years Calvin Johnson.
Posted by jerryblowsasgm @ 4:47 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
We need a cb. I don't care about any other postion like I do about cb. We have to draft Cromartie. However if we could trade Barber , Carpenter and Spears and a second I would be ok with the trade. Barber is a slug at rb. If we keep the first 2 picks I say Cromartie and Mendenhall. If we are able to get Mendenhall I say trade Barber immediately for as high a pick as you can get.
Posted by RP @ 4:48 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
We will not give up MB3 to get the Dolphins' first rounder. First of all, whats the point in getting D-Mac if we don't have MB3? We are back to square 1 if we give up MB3 meaning we'd only have 1 legit RB and we'd still be looking for one more. The whole reason we are looking for a speedy back is to complement MB3.
Posted by jtd86 @ 4:57 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
I really think we can throw out the #1 pick equals 3000 pts thing. In todays world with the bust that have been and the salary that has to be paid to that guy, it just does not make sense. It really makes sense when we look at Bill Parcells history. I would do it if we could also get the second round pick. The only move I make is to give our two #1's with Ferguson and Carpenter for the first pick in the draft and the second round first pick (32nd overall). We get a stud RB, a very good CB, and we still can get a WR with our other second round pick. As far as Jason Taylor, he has the athletism to move to LB in the 3-4 (even makes more sense than Ellis did). And why would anyone trade down with the Cowboys after moving to the top spot? Wouldn't they just do it directly with Miami and Miami would get another pick any way. With all things considered, I would just target Miami's second round pick with our existing players which would give Dallas four picks in the top 56!
Posted by busaf95 @ 5:00 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
D-Mac is a great talent but frankly not worth this team trading both 1st round picks and other considerations to get. To be honest I am not totally convinced that Felix Jones wont be the better pro and is would be in our striking range
That said corner and wide receiver need to be addressed in the worst way.
Posted by Paul Karam @ 5:09 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Do you actually think the Lions would trade R. Williams for Spears and Carpenter? If so, you are dumber than you say Jerrah is. Keep the picks. Get a CB and RB with them and a WR is the 2nd round. Mendenhall will not be available is he is that fast.
Posted by Paul Karam @ 5:09 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Do you actually think the Lions would trade R. Williams for Spears and Carpenter? If so, you are dumber than you say Jerrah is. Keep the picks. Get a CB and RB with them and a WR is the 2nd round. Mendenhall will not be available is he is that fast.
Posted by Paul Karam @ 5:10 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Do you actually think the Lions would trade R. Williams for Spears and Carpenter? If so, you are dumber than you say Jerrah is. Keep the picks. Get a CB and RB with them and a WR is the 2nd round. Mendenhall will not be available is he is that fast.
Posted by John @ 5:18 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Posted by Scott in Austin @ 1:57 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Let's hope JJ does the following prior to the draft:
1. Trades for WR Roy Williams.
2. Signs a top CB like Samuel or Trufant.
3. Signs another mid-level CB (Drayton Florence).
Then... AFTER that -- go HOG WILD in the draft.
AMEN!! That is what I've been saying...
Posted by Status quo @ 5:28 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
I always believed that Lendale White was a better runningback then Reggie Bush, and I think Felix Jones is, in the long run, will be better then McFadden. Don't do it. Stay put.
Posted by josh in athens @ 6:50 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
With or without Barber, plus or minus DMc;
Do Not Make A Deal With The Smelly Tuna!!!!!!!!!!!!
He will Eat You Alive, Jonesy!
Dallas has enough talent to duplicate or surpass the Chargers success this year, in spite of what happens at running back.
Best #1 pick prediction: Early Doucet @ 22.
Posted by jer @ 7:24 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
ur all stupid let jj do wat he wants
Posted by Lee @ 7:24 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Um, this is insane. RB is the most injured position in football. I wouldn't even take a rb in the first round, much less AT THE TOP of Round 1...
Sigh. I bleed silver and blue, but I've come to the depressing conclusion that we will never sniff the Super Bowl as long as Jerry Jones is calling the shots. And make no mistake, as long as Jerry Jones is breathing he will continue to hold down our great team.
I hate Jerry Jones.
Posted by jer @ 7:32 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
ok guys, you all should know that without JJ the cowboys would never have the 3 SB rings that they have. He's the one to hire Jimmy and Bill but remember they are both gone and we need to move on. YOU know he will get what he needs in FA and get a stud in the Draft this year.
Posted by jer @ 7:33 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
ok guys, you all should know that without JJ the cowboys would never have the 3 SB rings that they have. He's the one to hire Jimmy and Bill but remember they are both gone and we need to move on. YOU know he will get what he needs in FA and get a stud in the Draft this year.
Posted by A-Cast @ 7:34 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Fair to say that JJ is a shrewd business man and a bit of a poker player. I think he's just putting out feelers and throwing off a few GMs and owners for the upcoming draft. It's too early to really know what you want and he's just trying to muddy the waters. I think his downfall will be that he will try to make a splash on draft day and draft excitement for his new stadium (exp Bush for the Saints) instead of drafting for need and filling in the missing pieces for a 2008 superbowl run.
Posted by Mark @ 8:38 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
The heck with giving away the farm for one player.
That cancels any trade the Cowboys could work for Lions WR, Roy Williams.
That's who I am targeting! No other WR in this draft can match what Williams can do NOW!
A RB can be found in the later rounds. You don't fall in love with players. When that happens, then you find yourself in a mess.
Draft day may be over quick for us if Jones pulls a deal like this. A trade up to the Raiders is not worth it. Too much to give up for one player.
Posted by Curtis in carrollton @ 9:28 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
My hope is for the other hog RB Felix Jones to wind up here. I think he'll be better between the tackles and more durable. Then maybe the Leodis McKelvin Kid from Troy... then a receiver in round 2. Better use of the cap and filling holes in the secondary.
Posted by travt @ 11:28 PM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
4 U GUYS TO SAY U DONT WONT DMAC U R STUPIG DMAC IS THE BEST FOOTBALL PLAYER N D DRAFT. IF DMAC GOES TO D COWBOYS HE WILL HAVE OVER 1700 YARDS RUSHINY 15 TD'S N MVP.
Posted by Big Mouth @ 8:41 AM Mon, Jan 28, 2008
"4 U GUYS TO SAY U DONT WONT DMAC U R STUPIG DMAC IS THE BEST FOOTBALL PLAYER N D DRAFT. IF DMAC GOES TO D COWBOYS HE WILL HAVE OVER 1700 YARDS RUSHINY 15 TD'S N MVP."
*cough* Reggie "Best College RB since Barry Sanders" Bush *cough*
Ya gotta love the OVERHYPE.
McFadden will not have over 1,000 yards rushing his rookie year, especially if he is in Dallas' Power Running Attack. In a Zone Blocking Scheme, he may break 1,000, but not in our scheme.
Mark It Down
Posted by jerryblowsasgm @ 5:18 PM Mon, Jan 28, 2008
Dmac is a better rb than Peterson and doesn't get hit like Peterson does. That said I want Cromartie or McKelvin. If you can trade players and 1 st rounder for Dmac then do it. Dmac will have at least 1500 yards. You people who think Felix is better put down the pipe. Felix is not close to Dmac. Dmac would have scored on 2 of those first half runs that slug Marion Barber couldn't. Those 15 and 20 yard runs become td's if Dmac is the rb. Have to have Cromartie or McKelvin though. No if ands or buts.
Posted by SAMMIE PRATT @ 5:26 PM Mon, Jan 28, 2008
DALLAS OWNER JERRY JONES WILL BE STUPID TO GIVE UP BARBER FOR DMAC WHO HAD A BAD LEG IN COLLEGE
Posted by BigMeanie @ 8:22 PM Mon, Jan 28, 2008
"mac would have scored on 2 of those first half runs that slug Marion Barber couldn't. Those 15 and 20 yard runs become td's if Dmac is the rb."
And Julius Jones could have scored on those two also if he got into the secondary.
So what YOU are saying is McFadden is just a little better than JJ.
Hats off to you.
Posted by jerryblowsasgm @ 9:23 PM Mon, Jan 28, 2008
Meanine you are obviously STUPID. Barber is not in the same league as Dmac. Jujo is a weak no heart having punk. Kinda like you meanie. Dmac can get into the secondary. Jujo tackles himself like Hambrick did. Barber is just too slow.