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A lot of folks see Jerry Jones as the epitome of a meddling owner. His GM title can be used as evidence in that argument. But before you complain about Jerry, read up on the latest Al Davis debacle in Raiderland. Pretty sure the Black Hole residents would love to swap owners with the Cowboys. Speaking of out-of-control egos, Danny Snyder is conducting quite an interesting coaching search in Washington. He took a page out of Jerry's book and hired an offensive coordinator (Jim Zorn) before deciding on a head coach. |
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Posted by Ron @ 8:06 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
I wondered where Tom Hicks was learning to be such a great owner? Jerry is at least letting people think that Wade is making the decisions.
Posted by Kay @ 8:22 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
Where are you Redskin fan? The Redskins are the Raiders East. What a pathetic bunch. Do you know that Redskin Fan would happily go 2-14 into perpetuity as long as those two wins are over Dallas? Ha!
Posted by Kevin @ 8:32 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
Jerry is the best owner in sports. Fans should love the fact that he does everything possible to field a competitive team every year. His passion for winning mirrors most die hard fans. It is a joke how much he gets bashed. We could have it a whole lot worse. If he gets credited for all the "bad" GM moves, he should get the credit for all the things that he does well that has brought us a consistent product most years. We are sad that we haven't won a Super Bowl in over 10 years (3 in 4 years ain't bad) but there are teams that haven't come close (LIONS, etc)... Cut the guy some slack!
Posted by Bill in DC @ 8:51 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
ROFL, the Redskins now have so many coaches that I think they have an Offensive coordinator for every position. Hehe, they're becoming like Bank Vice Presidents.The reason Gregg Williams didn't get the job (and he should have) is that he will not kowtow to Vinny Cerrato, who has a Rasputin-like hypnotic hold over 'The Danny'. Cerrato is a first class football idiot, he'll run that team back into the ground so fast it will make your head spin.
Posted by catch22 @ 9:11 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
Easy fellas a few more years and Jerry will be just like Davis. I think they have both lost their minds. As far as Snyder goes he is just an idiot.
Posted by Gene @ 9:13 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
In all of these years that Jones has owned the Cowboys, two lessons that he has failed to learn:
1. He has a FOOL for a Gen. Mgr.
2. You can spend a lot of money, but you can't buy
CLASS!
Posted by Ty @ 9:27 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
Amen, Kevin!
Posted by Vijay @ 9:57 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
Thank you Kevin - I 100% agree. Jerry has been an average to poor GM and there's not much to say to argue that. But as an OWNER, he has done whatever it takes financially to make this team a success. He always puts the team first and will do what it takes for the team. Ask the fans of the Liverpool soccer team how great it is having Tom Hicks own a legendary franchise. Here, he owns a baseball team that has never been good (so not a lot of outcry) and a hockey team in the deep South (so not a lot of fans). Hicks is running a soccer team in England with the prestige of the Cowboys and he is being pushed out and has only owned the team for less than a year. I'm completely fine with Jerrah!
Posted by catch22 @ 10:04 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
Dont get me wrong I love Jerry but he just cant possibly do everything. He needs to hire somebody to do what Ireland was doing. Not himself
Posted by Jimbo @ 10:07 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
Kevin-
Then you get what you deserve. This any-means-justify-the-ends mentality is exactly why people hate Jerry. It's not that he just makes bad decisions, it's his win-at-all-costs attitude. Pitiful that your kind doesn't see that.
Posted by Robert_BigD @ 10:23 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
Al Davis cut his grill in the AFL and is a football god. Fact he is senile now should serve in no way to "make Jerrah look good."
Fact is Jerrah the GM is an imbecile. Owner is pretty damn good though.
Timmuh, is the Marquee Player coming or going from the Cowboys??
Posted by Redskins_Rule @ 10:24 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
you chuckleheads are amusing...I want to be quick and to the point:
1. re 2-14 with both wins being over the pokes [Dallas fans would do the same trade over us].
2. Zorn B4 HC = Garrett B4 HC.
3. Snyder as an idiot [complete agreement].
4. I send play-ground jabs re biscuits; doughnuts; and pancakes...in return I get reveling in a young person's untimely death.
5. peace-out for now.
6. HA HA HA
Posted by Give Jerry A Break @ 10:44 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
Kevin, you say:
"Jerry is the best owner in sports. Fans should love the fact that he does everything possible to field a competitive team every year. His passion for winning mirrors most die hard fans. It is a joke how much he gets bashed"
You are absolutely right. I finally figured out that most fans who bash jerry are casual weekend fans who know little about what is really going on in the organization but like to pretend they do by jumping on the bash jerry bandwagon. Jerry is just an easy target. No man on the planet wants a good team and works harder to have a good team than Jerry Jones. A man cant make as many decisions as he has to make without making some wrong ones, and neither can you in your business. Lets stop expecting the man to be perfect and appreciate that even in making a mistake, he was trying to do the right thing for the team.
Posted by Lance @ 10:51 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
To paraphrase one of the most famous coaching rants, Al Davis is who we thought he was. Why would Dennis Green want his a** crowned as Raiders coach? On second thought they deserve each other.
Posted by Ron @ 12:01 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
We're trading Jessica Simpson and Carrie Woods to Oakland for Britany Speers and a first round pick.
Posted by RyanA @ 12:06 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Jerry is a stud. Bottom line. Look what he bought the club for, look what it's worth now.....dude has biz savvy.
With that said, Jerry could maybe hand the reigns over when it comes to GM responsibilities....I know he hires some good people around him, but he does have the final say in decisions. Now his knowledge of the GM thing is much greater than mine, but I feel there are others out there who are better than he is at that particular job. Plus, Jerry needs to be out wildcattin' for some oil, lol.
Go Boys!
RyanA
Posted by G @ 12:34 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
The most important ingredient for success for any NFL team is acquiring the best talent for your offensive and defensive system with the right level of veteran leadership. Jerry Jones passion is unquestionable but as a talent evaluator we have sufficient history in the salary cap era of the NFL that he is not among the best. Look at how Parcells et al changed the team in that regard. No one has done it better than the Patriots and the GM there happens to be Bill Parcells son in law. Four AFC championships in seven years to show for it in New England. I am not sure why Jerry Jones won't allow the best talent evaluators to join the Cowboys organization so that his goal of more Super Bowls is realized.
Posted by Paul Zimmerman S.I. @ 12:41 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
You're going to find this hard to believe but there are some people out there who actually are challenging my selection of the Giants to beat Patriots in the Supe XLII. This surprises me, too, but I'll get to those people after I answer my E-mailer of the week; is this OK?
Tim MacMahon of Dallas, Tx., a Sportswriter, for shame -- "we here at the Dallas Morning News give due credit to the immortal thinkers, innovators, tactitions, and basically founding fathers of the NFL. But we feel since running our blog sight for the past several years there may need to be another addition to the "faces" of the Mt. Rushmore of the NFL. What do you think?"
Whooo, hold on a minute there, pardner. Hundreds of e-mails come in each week, sometimes thousands, and there was one weekend, right around Arbor Day, when there were millions re this subject...and me and the Flaming red-head thank you for your kind words...and try the 2006 Casa Torres Pinot Noir for your next candle-light dinner with your soulmates Breer and Archer and your fellow bright, young, and alert crew...but back to your question...I for the longest time had Vince Lombardi up there for the power running game and striking the fear of god into his own players; Landry [who coached on the same staff as Lombardi for the Giants but as the defensive guru] as the original innovator of the modern 4-3 defense [flex responsibilities be damned]; Sid Gilliam as the real genius behind the West Coast Offense [not the dink and dunk stuff they now refer to it nowadays, but the real downfield patterns run off the fake slant patterns]; and Bill Walsh [who took the Gilliam offense and tweaked it but in reality it was the same basic concepts employed by Gilliam, but with bigger and stronger receivers]. But after reading the many prescient, tactical, unnervingly prophetic posts that you have submitted for my tape review, I now feel that Tim Burns from San Angelo TX belongs on this immortal "mythical" tribute. If I had my way [which includes having Cliff Harris in the HOF as the best FS I have ever seen], they should chip Vince Lombardi's face off of this tribute and chisel in Tim Burns'. In fact if I had my way, Tim's face would be chiseled in slightly larger than the other 3 sorely based on contributions from his car lot in San Angelo TX. I hope that helps Tim MacMahon, but if it doesn't, don't blame me, I'm just a fellow "hack" working in a "non-profession."
Paul Zimmerman
S.I.
Posted by Gene @ 1:18 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Al Davis, Danny Snyder, and Jerry Jones all bought their Team for Self Glorification! Wrong reason!!! Unless you had your head in the sand and don't remember, Jones ran off Jimmy Johnson, over an EGO thing. He has been trying ever since, to prove that he is smarter than all of the others. He has failed MISERABLY. No one doubts his ultimate goal, but until he eats a little "humble pie", he will not see his dreams realized. Jones is an EGO MANIAC.
Posted by John @ 7:02 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
"Posted by Gene @ 9:13 PM Fri, Jan 25, 2008
In all of these years that Jones has owned the Cowboys, two lessons that he has failed to learn:
1. He has a FOOL for a Gen. Mgr.
2. You can spend a lot of money, but you can't buy
CLASS!" or Championships!
Let me also say that the Cowboys DID win 3 in 4 years but that has always had more to do with the Minn trade, lack of salary cap and Jimmy Johnson. SO for you who live in Jerry World with Jerry need to sit back and look at the facts.
Once the core of the team left Jerry continues to buy players thinking that'll do it. It doesn't. That locker room is full of players who don't play as a "team". I hate the Pats but for crying out loud they get good players to play more than one position, they play as a team and the coach would NEVER allow run of the mouth players like Crayton [who hasn't proven a thing other than when it counts he doesn't show up]. Phillips has no more control over that team.
Jones, like Synder, like Davis likes to hire "YES" men. Nobody to challenge their authority but they want results. CLEARLY if you don't challenge Jones you won't be able to win it all. Jerry wants to be "the Man" and he bent on proving that it was HIM not Jimmy Johnson that won those SB's.
Until he lets his ego rest we won't go any further than we have and the waste of talent and time will continue to the point that we will be the Falcons in the NFC east. Who will want to come to this team via FA?
Posted by pjbprime @ 7:23 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Jerry is living his dream. He is a celebrity of sorts and is a close to being a pro football player as he could ever be. You can't blame him there. I just don't like him. Plus, I can't stand to see the man on TV. Everytime I see his Papa John's and Pepsi commercials it makes me sick. It certainly doesn't help my appetite. I just that wish he and Mark Cuban would stay in the background instead of seeking the spotlight.
Posted by Boyz R Back @ 8:22 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Actually, I think the commercials that Jerry does are pretty funny, especially the one where Wade is sending Romo in with the "...aaahh" play. The dancing one is pretty funny because of the dancing body with Jerry's face. The Ford truck commercial with the new stadium is kind of goofy.
Cuban is probably more of an "ordinary Joe" that made it big. Actually, he's maybe more of a "nerd" that likes sports that made it big. He kind of reminds of a guy that everyone picked on, but when he became rich and successful, they all wished they had been nicer to him (especially when they are needing a good job).
Posted by roberich @ 8:23 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
WHY IN THE WORLD IS EVERYONE BASHING JERRY JONES. HE IS THE BEST OWNER THE BOYS HAVE EVER HAD. REMEMBER BUM BRIGHT???????? ENOUGH SAID.
HOW MANY FANS OF OTHER TEAMS WOULD LOVE ONE SUPERBOWL TROPHY MUCH LESS 5, THREE WHICH WERE UNDER JONES. ALL YOU SUPPOSEDLY KNOWLEDGEABLE FANS WHO BASH JONES NEED TO GO ROOT FOR THE LIONS, TEXANS, SAINTS,BILLS OR FALCONS.
Go Cowboys
Posted by EB @ 8:39 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Jerry is a great owner who wants to win,as long he surround himself with good football people this team has a long playoff future. He willing to spend to win.
We have many more playoff seasons ahead.
Posted by EB @ 8:39 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Jerry is a great owner who wants to win,as long he surround himself with good football people this team has a long playoff future. He willing to spend to win.
We have many more playoff seasons ahead.
Posted by Jimmy Johnson @ 8:57 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
11 years without a playoff win!
Dumbass Jones deserves it!
Posted by George W @ 8:57 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
"Once the core of the team left Jerry continues to buy players thinking that'll do it. It doesn't. That locker room is full of players who don't play as a "team". I hate the Pats but for crying out loud they get good players to play more than one position, they play as a team and the coach would NEVER allow run of the mouth players like Crayton [who hasn't proven a thing other than when it counts he doesn't show up]. Phillips has no more control over that team.
Jones, like Synder, like Davis likes to hire "YES" men. Nobody to challenge their authority but they want results. CLEARLY if you don't challenge Jones you won't be able to win it all. Jerry wants to be "the Man" and he bent on proving that it was HIM not Jimmy Johnson that won those SB's.
Until he lets his ego rest we won't go any further than we have and the waste of talent and time will continue to the point that we will be the Falcons in the NFC east. Who will want to come to this team via FA? "
Amen John!! You got it absolutely right. Those championships that everyone gives Jerry credit for belong to Jimmy. Since Jimmy wasn't the YES man that Jerry surrounds himself with, he was cut. Remember the quote Jerry said "I could find any coach or asst coach to get this team to the Super Bowl". Well, that was pretty smart.
Jerry may be a smart business person, but is an idiot person. Why else would he be doing commercials when he absolutely doesn't need the money?
Posted by tex @ 9:20 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Whether Jones is the worst owner, or if it is Danny Snyder or Al Davis, or the sorry sack of Mike Brown, Denise York, or Bidwell, is not the essential question.
Who spends the most money foolishly, makes himself the GM, meddles on the sideline during games, surrounds himself with yes men, and ran the guy who REALLY won him two SB titles out of town? That's right, it's our own Jerry Jones, the embarrasment of Dallas/Fort Worth.
Regarding the others:
1). Snyder: All the things Jerry is except has never been on the field, and hires GM's.
2). Al Davis: All the things Jerry is except he is senile. What is Jerry's excuse?
3). Denise York: Only got the team because her brother Debartolo got jailed.
4). Mike Brown: Jerry without the money. If he had it, would spend it a lot better than Jones.
5). Bidwells in Arizona: Jerry without the luck. Questionable judgement, lame brain hirings, but just never got lucky like Jerry did from 92-95.
Thus, Jerry has all the traits of various silly owners in the NFL all rolled up into one plasticized, toupeed Arkansas slang body.
If Jerry wanted to win, he should look no further than the Philadelphia, NYG, Patriots, Steelers ownerships. See what they do, see how they act, and realize that he is a laughingstock of the NFL ownership circle. Sure, they respect him ON THE MONEY SIDE, THE SNAKEOIL SIDE, but they laugh at his GM and football knowledge.
How sad that Jerry doesn't even realize that the NFL laughs and sneers at his football operations.
This franchise will never win again until Jerry is gone from the scene.
Posted by The "Real" Tim Burns @ 9:51 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
I actually like Dr. Z...
The fact that you have such a hard-** for me, especially on days when I don't even log on here, is pretty funny. I'll be back later, you crazy kids.
Posted by You're stupid @ 9:52 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
This blog just goes to show that most football "fans" know absolutely nothing about football and what goes into building a championship team. These are the same people that thought Bill Belichick, when with the Browns, was the worst coach ever and now you believe he is the greatest coach ever. Fair weather fans. You ever been to a Cowboy Game? People cheering when the offense is on the feild, don't yell on defensive third down...Stupid "fans"
Yeah, Bill Parcells is a yes man...Stupid.
Who do you think pulled the deal with H Walker? Jerry.
How great would NE be this year if Moss blew his knee out in the first game? (Galloway his first year. And dont forget he was the best WR available for Troy and a final run)
You know, Jerry was Co-Captain on an undefeated College Football program - 64. What other owners can say that? Did you do that?
Jerry is self made. He didn't invent something and sell it for a billion dollars. If I paid 140 million of my own money (remember people thought Jerry was an idiot for doing this too. How stupid now?)you better belive I would be whereever I wanted to be when the game was going. He doesn't call the plays. He supports his team.
When they lost the game against the Giants, what did you lose $50 bucks? Jerry lost about 10 millin because he would have hosted the championship game the next weekend. Nobody had more to lose.
Who brought Haley in? Jerry. Who brought Dion in? Jerry. Everybody thought he was stupid for that too.
Remember how "stupid" Jerry was when he brought in J.Garret?
Granted, we have not done well in the draft. Some of it may be Jerry's fault. But his fault is sticking with the same scouting dept for so long.
Class? I'm sure you people are very classy. The millions he has given to charity, the time he has given to the community.
My point is, you are stupid, un-informed and know less about football than my wife.
Think about it...
Posted by Ura Hack @ 10:04 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Timmy Trailer-Park:
1) It's blog "site," not "sight."
2) Wake me up when Davis is on the sideline next to the head coach during crunch time.
3) I'm sure JJ would have no problems if a head coach of his under long-term contract were interviewing for open jobs elsewhere.
Posted by Dimwit Fan @ 10:08 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
To You're Stupid-
Wow, being on a college undefeated team certainly qualifies a person to be a great owner. Huh?
And a knowledgeable fan "cheers when the offense is on the feild, and doesn't yell on defensive third down". OK, that's how to be a smart fan. Huh?
"He doesn't call the plays. He supports his team." Huh?
"My point is, you are stupid, un-informed and know less about football than my wife." I guess you proved your point.
Posted by You're Stupid @ 10:12 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
You can read. What's your point?
Posted by You're Stupid @ 10:18 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Dear Dimwit, I would like to know who think is a great owner. And don't say Kraft, he is but that would show your limited knowledge.
You're Stupid
Posted by Mark @ 10:18 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Jerry Jones the Owner gets A's!
Jerry Jones the G.M. gets a C! His Free Agent signings have been good. His drafting before 2002 was complete garbage. Parcells had allot to do with the change in philosophy.
We'll see if GM Jones can keep this team moving in a positive direction.
Posted by You're Stupid @ 10:29 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Mark, I would agree Jerry would get a C as a GM.I would say c+. Other than a few teams (Philly, Pitt. NE) no GM is that good. Because there is a lot of luck that goes into it. But Philly hasn't won the big one. Pitt did a few years ago but before that it was 78.
I love draft ratings, people say the teams that get an "A" are usually the teams that had two first round picks. It's easy to pick high in the draft.
Posted by Bill in DC @ 10:36 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
For all the Jerry Bashers that are making the claim the Jerry isn't a good GM/Owner I might point out
1) Made the decision to bring Jimmy Johnson out of the college ranks -- at the time the 'wise' of the NFL and the fans laughed and laughed because 'Jerry was an idiot for turning the pro team over to someone who knew nothing about the NFL'.
2) Engineered the Hershel Walker trade - possibly the most one sided trade in NFL history. Again jerry was called and 'idiot' by the 'wise' of the NFL.
3) Engineered the trade for Charles Haley, stealing a HOF pass rusher for a 2nd round pick. The 'wise' of the NFL called him an 'idiot' for bringing in a known locker room poison, yet somehow Haley became a team leader and sparked the Boys to their first SB win of 3.
4) Brought Deion Sanders to the team. Again called an 'idiot' by the 'wise' of the NFL because he 'overpaid' for possibly the best CB in NFL history.
He's won 3 SB titles in his less than 20 years with the team. How many teams have done the same? Not very many, maybe 1 other? Not a bad record.
Yes, I grant you that he had a rough period in his attempt to bring the boys back to a championship quickly, made some trades that turned out badly, brought in the wrong coaches and mismanaged the cap trying to get one more SB out of the triplets era.
I think he's learned and his recent drafts, cap management, trades and signings have shown that. He was smart enough to bring in Parcells and this team has turned around.
He's one of the best owners and has learned to be a good GM.
Posted by Your're Stupid @ 10:43 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Bill, nice. Finally some level headed opinions.
If people would look at the big picture...
You're Stupid
Posted by Boyz R Back @ 11:33 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
I constantly see and hear complaints about the Cowboys' draft. Sure, the organization has made mistakes, but they've hit on some, too.
What round did they get Canty in?
What round did they get Romo in?
Oh wait! They didn't even have to draft him. But then some of the constant complainers (nothing better to do, I guess) think he's terrible now.
Stop and think about it. The NFL draft, and free agency for that matter, is a lot like rolling dice at times. You never know if a player is going to work out or not. Who knows?
This year, the dice could roll heavily in the Cowboys favor. Then, it might not.
The point is, there is a lot of luck involved in acquiring good players that will stay healthy and help the team. And then there is a lot of luck in getting a team to the playoffs and the Super Bowl. Just think if Tom Brady or Randy Moss had a season-ending injury midway thru the season. It could still happen in the first quarter of the Super Bowl (some of you hope).
I know these things, because I've played Madden. ;)
Yeah, I know it's not all luck, and it's frustrating that the Cowboys didn't get past their first playoff game (again). But at least they lost to a team that has played well enough to make it to the big game.
I honestly think that if the Cowboys made it to the Super Bowl and lost by a slim margin, some of you would still complain about how bad Wade, Jerry, and/or Romo are for the Cowboys organization. Some people just seem to be that way.
Posted by WilliamC @ 11:48 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Your Stupid, and Bill in DC, Kevin,
appreciate your posts. It never ceases to amaze me how uninformed fans bash Jerry like they do, but the key word here is "uninformed".
Like "Give Jerry a Break" posted earlier, it is mainly the uninformed, casual weedend warrior type fan, who really doesnt keep up with what is going on with the team, that jumps on Jerry, because even though they dont have clue as to what is really going on in the cowboys organization, they can pretend they do by bashing Jerry and sounding like big shots. Thats basically what you get on this blog.
I am not saying Jerry is perfect. I am not saying he hasn't made mistakes, but the good things he has done for the Dallas Cowboys, the community, and the NFL far overshadows his shortcomings. We are fortunate to have a man, as human and imperfect as he may be, who eats, drinks, and sleeps ways to make this team better. His passion and dedication cannot be questioned by any fan who takes the time to really understand his body of work.
Posted by John @ 11:55 AM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
No I don't think Jerry is bad.. I think he's much worse than that!
He has single handly turned his own fans against their team.
After years of hoping and praying...years of wasting my money on this team and Jerry just takes in your money and doesn't give a crap about the fans. Thinks he Steinbrener [sp] and can just go buy a Super Bowl but so far that hasn't worked out to well for him.. not at all.
Posted by Tim Burns I-Phone @ 12:00 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
I said I would leave, but i am so addicted to this blog. Its hard to have friends when you are fleecing the public to buy poorly made American cars, but i do it.
Tim Burns
San Angelo
pretty soon I will put my dating profile here cause God knows I have put everyting else
Posted by Bill in DC @ 2:00 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
John,
You seem to be confused. I think you're thinking of Danny Snyder in Washington. He is truly the one who doesn't give a *#$! about the fans, has turned them against the team, and has been trying for years to emulate the Yankees owner and buy himself a SB, not Jerry.
Gibbs was the only person who could keep him even close to in line. Gibbs left him with a team that was starting to click on offense an defense and was going to be a playoff contender next year. Since Gibbs quit it has taken 'The Danny' and his brownnoser-in-chief Vinny Cerrato exactly 3 weeks to tear the team apart. They've now fired their O and D coordinators (and Williams the D Coordinator is the one who engineered that really good defense for them), hired a new O and D coordinator before hiring a coach, have pissed off and alienated all of the people they've interviewed to be coach, and have set up whomever they end up hiring as a powerless fall guy. On top of that Cerrat's inestimable leadership has left them 22 million OVER the 2008 cap, which means they will not only NOT be able to be players in FA once again, but they will have to restructure multiple contracts to get to the cap, digging them further into the hole in the future. It is truly amazing that they've turned that franchise from a place players wanted to be to one that good players and coaches wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.
BRILLIANT!
Posted by PMS @ 2:19 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
Great day for Dallas fans! Gregg Williams and Al Saunders have both left the building. Danny sent 'em both packin'!
Is that smoke I see rising over the Potomac?
Posted by George W @ 3:39 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
"Stop and think about it. The NFL draft, and free agency for that matter, is a lot like rolling dice at times. You never know if a player is going to work out or not. Who knows?"
So, that's the strongest that you pro-Jerry guys can make for his draft day comebacks? Then you agree, he's not smart, cunning, or good, just lucky.
I'm not saying Jerry is in the same league as Snyder or Davis. They are true aholes. Jerry is just an idiot, ego-centric, arky boy that is embarrasing to watch.
And to state that he's built this organization into a multi-billion dollar business, only plays to the fact that he's successfully raised ticket prices and convinced people to come watch his circus. The point of building a franchise is not to see how much $$ you can bring in, but how many championships. Take Jimmy away from the picture, and you're left with a sad organization. This year was truly the best the boys will get until Jerry is gone.
Posted by jtt @ 5:35 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
To all the Stupid Jerry Supporters,
"Take Jimmy away from the picture, and you're left with a sad organization. This year was truly the best the boys will get until Jerry is gone."
The above is the most succint and accurate description of Jones' tenure as GM of the Cowboys.....was totally lucky to hire his college teammate and EGO MANIACALLY AND STUPID to then fire him over a "bar scene" disagreement in early 1994.
Then after totally gutting and embarassing the franchise for years has "a moment of clarity/desperation" when hiring Parcells; then proceeds to squeeze him out over Bill's insistence on final say over personnel decisions (his forte).
As posts have detailed previously, the fact that he continues to appear in comercials corraborate his need for attention and validation as GM.
OWNER =7 (this low becasue of his refusal to terminate the GM); Willing to spend the bucks!!
GM =4 (Drafting, hiring YES men as coaches, insistence on sideline appearances, signings of free agent QBs (NOT responsible for Romo) are all evidence of his skills or lack thereof).
Only a casual and occasional fan could reach any other rational conclusion on JJ as a GM; but if you are into high profile, inconsequential moves and attention gathering stunts, continue to praise him as the second coming of Dearth Davis.
Unless he hires immediate and ultra-qualified talent evaluators, we will squander another golden opportunity to enhance the talent assembled by BP in his four years here........that should/would constitute a criminal offense punishable by a two year asylum away from running the team!!
Posted by Boyz R Back @ 5:43 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
"So, that's the strongest that you pro-Jerry guys can make for his draft day comebacks? Then you agree, he's not smart, cunning, or good, just lucky."
No, I don't.
If you think "he's not smart, cunning, or good," then how did he (again in your words), build "this organization into a multi-billion dollar business," and convince "people to come watch his circus"?
You made your last statement as if you think you're the expert, but you can't be an expert and contradict yourself in the same post.
When you talk about taking Jimmy out of the conversation, that's just kind of silly, too. You can't forget how successful he was in Miami. Oh wait... He didn't do all that well after he left Dallas. Maybe he needed Jerry as much as Jerry needed him. Or maybe Jimmy just lost interest in being a successful coach.
You don't know what's going to happen, and neither do I. There's already too many know-it-all posters that think they can predict the outcome of next season.
And then, there are the constant complainers. I wasn't happy when the season ended, but I got over it pretty quick. A good friend of mine passed away the day before the Cowboys loss, and any football game just doesn't seem that important when you know a family that is hurting because they've lost a loved one.
Posted by Boyz R Back @ 6:07 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
I know more than Jerry Jones, and I've got it all figured out. They'll never have any success with him in charge. I know because I've been successful at Madden (sort of).
I'm smarter than that whole organization. That's why I'm sitting here posting on this blog instead of doing something productive. But if I owned the Cowboys...
I mean, what has that unsuccessful fool, Jerry Jones, ever done?!?!?
Well, he's eked out a meager living, and he owns the most famous NFL team, but that's about it. Jimmy Johnson probably had to help him buy the Cowboys, because Jerry couldn't have possibly been that successful or smart enough to make it happen on his own.
Anyway, that's about how it sounds from some of the Jerry haters.
Gosh, I don't want to end up like RAMS FAN and have no life.
Posted by Bill in DC @ 8:06 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
jtt,
Beg to differ, but Jimmy admitted years later that HE engineered his leaving the Cowboys because he was burned out, so you're analysis falls short. Jerry didn't fire him, he quit.
Also, ascribing 'luck' to Jerry's hiring of Johnson is a tad self-indulgent and completely lame.
Sure the guys made mistakes, name an owner who hasn't.
The one thing you can't get around is his actions have gotten Dallas 3 SB championships (would have been 4 if Aikman hadn't spotted the 49'ers 21 points in the first quarter - is that Jerry's fault too?)
I find the Jerry haters pretty sad. This team is going somewhere. I predict here and now that Dallas wins the SB next year.
Posted by JDA @ 8:57 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
when davis FINALLY croaks the Raiders will be respectable again!!
Posted by George W @ 10:10 PM Sat, Jan 26, 2008
"Also, ascribing 'luck' to Jerry's hiring of Johnson is a tad self-indulgent and completely lame."
I was only repeating what previous posters said.
"Well, he's eked out a meager living, and he owns the most famous NFL team, but that's about it. Jimmy Johnson probably had to help him buy the Cowboys, because Jerry couldn't have possibly been that successful or smart enough to make it happen on his own."
I didn't say he wasn't a smart businessman. I give him that. But leave the football operations to people that are professional and much more capable than him; he's just an untalented meddler.
Posted by jtt @ 12:41 AM Sun, Jan 27, 2008
Bill in DC,
If you believe that statement on Johnson's departure, I have realestate for sale that you might consider buying....Jimmy's ego was/maybe still is just as large as Jones; with all due respect, Jones had had it with Johnson getting the lion's share of their success and went ballistic when Johnson humiliated him at a hotel's bar with most of his assistant in attendance shortly after the second Super Bowl victory. Jimmy was so burned out that he immediately jumped into the other head coaching job that he would ever be interested in Miami.
This argument is similar to the one proposed by many that Bill "quit on his own last February"; anyone can read the tea leaves, why did it take him "5-6 weeks to become burned out" and yet less than ten months later he was interviewing with TWO NFL clubs to return to the league? Parcells would have never left Dallas last year had Jones wanted him to stay. Again I refer you to Cowlishaw's recent column where he (Tim C) advocated keeping Wade for one more season......JOnes was GOING TO FIRE PARCELLS HAD HE NOT RESIGNED.....I buy into that only because again BP's press conferences were the highlight/classics of the week in Dallas last season, then he had the audacity to demote Drew B (one his own guys) for an untested kid in the middle of a division game against a hated rival. Jones was never consulted, he was livid as his post game comments would attest. As the Romo legend began to unfold, so did Bill's stature with the local/national press (many who could not stand his czar attitude begrudginly gave him credit for making what has turned out to be "a franchise changing move". Ditto when he actually cut the most accurate kicker in NFL history......who else would have had the brass ba$$$ to do that, placing the team's welfare ahead of signing bonuses and the owner's feelings??
Jerry cannot be upstaged by a hired hand, period end of story. I/many of us do not hate Jerry, we give him his props as as owner with an obsession to
win, but he has demonstrated that he is his own
worst enemy in trying to do just that.
I hope that you are right about the SB next year, but this franchise is on the way down with him as its sole leader......and now he wants to rehire another castoff in Campo, Art Shell anyone?? An assitant coach that will talk to him behind teh head coach's back?? He must have the answers on how to get Roy more productive to justify his huge signing bonus.
Bill you seem like a bright guy, wake up and read the history without the colored glasses and selective recall......I guess that it is must be so blindingly clear.............